Message-Id: <199803291922.NAA14064@zoom.bga.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:22:03 -0400
From: "Quinn@GhostWheel" <someone@ghostwheel.mud.org>
To: quinn@netsville.com
Subject: GhostWheel Message(s) 632 - 686 from *ideas (#504)
Status: U

Message 632 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Tue Mar 10 09:07:43 1998 CST
From:     Quinn (#2)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  invisibility

If it were to be done right, invisibility would be more trouble than its
worth.  And I don't want to do it wrong.  (Ie. just remove them from the
room's contents, change their say to print 'Someone', whatever.)  Don't count
on invisibility with the core we have now.

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Message 633 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Tue Mar 10 09:08:35 1998 CST
From:     Quinn (#2)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  progs

Programmers can be deleted, but doing so would break everything they own,
which may be in use by the players.  Rather than @chowning everything, I
simply disable their login.

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Message 634 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 07:47:40 1998 CST
From:     Red_Fang (#5907)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Lists

Think its time to purge some of these Lists..  Of course I blame spam girl for
all the lag and long checkpoints.. I would never post nonsence myself..*winks*
Just a thought...

Rob

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Message 635 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 14:56:35 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  @refuse

Bring it back.

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Message 637 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 17:51:35 1998 CST
From:     Kynwal (#20497)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  I want to see

Pistols.

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Message 638 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 17:57:28 1998 CST
From:     Kynwal (#20497)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Plot idea

Big spaceship 3-4 miles long.
Crash in firezone.
Multiple-levels (done via megarooms with linkers)
Occupied by ugly nasty bad things.
nifty toys and guns for plot only. armor/flamethrowers/etc
Heapum big fun.
People go in but they don't get out till plot done.
Oh yeah, weebles will wobble but they don't fall down.

Yes, I know this sounds like a plot I had in mind before. ;)

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Message 639 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 17:59:16 1998 CST
From:     Anubis (#22578)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  RE:last

Make it playable for everyone not just current firezone inhabitants.
If this was the idea anyway just pretend like I didn't post this. :)

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Message 640 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 18:01:22 1998 CST
From:     Smoke (#12541)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  re Kyn

say Hey! I want naked dancing men...so you just stand in line magic boy!

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Message 641 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 18:06:19 1998 CST
From:     Skywalker (#6644)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Kyn's

If the ship had Traz on it and if the Traz had natural psionic weapons to mess
with people's heads, it'd certainly add a challenge to any high-statted
players, should this TP ever materialize.

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Message 642 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 18:26:50 1998 CST
From:     Kynwal (#20497)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Oh yeah another thing

Crossbows would be cool.

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Message 643 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 18:27:10 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

rah rah rah

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Message 644 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 18:27:55 1998 CST
From:     Moonheart (#20495)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Crossbows

they exist but the message set it a bit messed up I was gonna put some in play
but don't own it so couldn't fix it ...

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Message 645 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 18:34:51 1998 CST
From:     Sater (#4919)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Rathe's alias

Take his alias "all" away. It gets frickken annoying when you wanna use the
/all command

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Message 646 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 18:38:55 1998 CST
From:     Kynwal (#20497)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Nother idea

Ranged weapon, ergo ammo, disarming.
Ya know, the ole shoot the hand stuff.

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Message 647 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 18:45:23 1998 CST
From:     Smoke (#12541)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  nother idea on top of idea's

Backhoes, in order to scrape up the bullshit. But then a nice pearl handled
357 magnum would be nice, or a 9mm...perhaps found in a buried PD, after all,
we are still the world of before. Maybe even old harleys, there is a gas
station out in the wastelands. I dont know much about gas ( well except the
beans part) but I am sure it can be used for cycles.

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Message 648 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 20:03:05 1998 CST
From:     Akane (#14270)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Ahabs.

Make 'Pets' for players, but hack up them so that they will not be able to do
the following:

* Attack or be attacked
* Take things
* talk (using say)

Make em be free to emote, pets were designed for such, would be hard to
abuse.. whats to abuse? Anyhow, just my 2c.

Ake

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Message 649 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 20:03:39 1998 CST
From:     Akane (#14270)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Addendum to last

* Make sure they are charged the amount of points like before, too.

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Message 650 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 20:05:15 1998 CST
From:     Akane (#14270)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Addendum to Addendum to last

Make sure you can't monitor them save for outside your room, or command them
outside your room, so they can't 'spy' on others, as Sky said.

Akesta

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Message 651 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 20:05:40 1998 CST
From:     Clayson (#17237)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  re: akanes

I want a big furry pussy to follow me around..o'wait, I already have
one...nevermind.

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Message 652 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 20:05:54 1998 CST
From:     Fester (#20551)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Last

That would kick ass.. I want me a pet.

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Message 653 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Wed Mar 11 21:19:28 1998 CST
From:     Nomar (#17488)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Pets

Yeah, it's a good idea and all but what's the point? If they can't attack,
can't talk, you can't monitor them in a different room or anything, etc.
You might as well just carry around a kid of $thing hacked to have an emote
verb...

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Message 654 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 07:30:30 1998 CST
From:     Yjezra (#5512)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Re: 648/Pets

We tried that before. Some of the problems we had were:
Players using them for killing/crystal hunters.
Players adding other players to them as shapers, who then used them via
monitoring, learning stuff oocly, etc, etc, etc.
Players leaving them around the moo, pet being killed, lots of whining.
Players using them to enter tents, etc, looting other players on line.
Players using them to be anoying/attacking others.
There are some other problems that occurred with them, but I haven't had much
sleep, and is too f***ing early in the morning.
Oh, do eat up Db.
*sleepy-bitch-wiz-on-vacation* Yj

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Message 655 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 10:04:07 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Well, looks like with Ed's idea, they wouldn't be able to attack, people in
other rooms wouldn't be able to monitor, wouldn't be killable, probably
wouldn't be able to pick things up.....

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Message 656 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 10:06:46 1998 CST
From:     Red_Fang (#5907)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Auto LOOTING!!! Woo woo.. saves time after ya kill someone.. Just gotta run!!

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Message 657 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 10:09:43 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Damn good idea. Loot loot loot! @combat-options +autoloot. So none of those
greedy little players in the room can grab that polymer you killed some poor
sunuvabitch for before you. @woo

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Message 658 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 10:10:49 1998 CST
From:     Red_Fang (#5907)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Exactly!!  Grab it all up and grin..  Silly bastards where asking for it..

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Message 659 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:28:21 1998 CST
From:     Mercury (#16576)
To:       *ideas (#504)

The actual usage of the word "Fucking" since I don't know if *'s are vowels or
consonants.
k

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Message 660 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:29:11 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

You're a fucking moron. What the fuck is wrong with you? Everyone fucking
knows how to use the word fuck. Fucking bloody hell.

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Message 661 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:29:31 1998 CST
From:     Mercury (#16576)
To:       *ideas (#504)

:drips because of Rathe.

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Message 662 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:37:36 1998 CST
From:     Mercury (#16576)
To:       *ideas (#504)

re: 654, from what you're saying sounds like someone could just create a
generic thing in a replicator and describe it as a pet. If it can't be killed
and can't pick things up, then what's the point.
Though if there were pets, it could have an inventory limit of one object
(simulating a mouth for example) and if it picks up another item, it drops the
object in it's .inventory and replaces it with the new item.

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Message 663 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:39:41 1998 CST
From:     Mercury (#16576)
To:       *ideas (#504)

And monitoring only if you find someone who can soulbond you to it, then again
that gets into issues of beastiality and having to find a bloodmage who'll
actually perform the soulbonding rite on you. And just getting rid of the
ability for other people to monitor puppets.
Whatever happened to the beastmasters?

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Message 664 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:40:15 1998 CST
From:     Mercury (#16576)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Have I mentioned titanium dentures so non-recombs can use the bite skill?

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Message 665 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:40:50 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Yes

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Message 666 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:40:59 1998 CST
From:     Mercury (#16576)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Banning number spamming.

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Message 667 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 12:41:13 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Fucker. You got 666.

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Message 668 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Thu Mar 12 15:00:23 1998 CST
From:     Mulder (#709)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  pets

A long, long, long time ago I made a generic pet, and then a kid that was a
generic non-combat pet (I don't remember if you could attack them or not.).
They could only pick up one thing at a time (settable, of course, so some
couldn't pick up anything), they couldn't use the 'say' verb, and they could
emote while being held inside of other people.  Fancy shmancy, but nobody
really made many, so I haven't updated them.  The only thing that they don't
have that you're wanting is the ability not to monitor them if you're not in
the same room, but I don't know if I can do that with my code, or if it
requires some verb patching.
-Mulder

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Message 669 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 12:37:48 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Ranged weapons, and exits

Perhaps a generic sniper rifle, or something along those lines, that would let
you attack THROUGH an exit? Would be damn cool

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Message 670 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:45:17 1998 CST
From:     Skywalker (#6644)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  The alias 'all'

 Can some wizard please add this to their aliases like was done with
"nothing"?

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Message 671 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:45:42 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

No they can't.

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Message 672 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:46:23 1998 CST
From:     Akane (#14270)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Actually

Quinn could, if you asked him. I'm sure he could find it's a pretty much
annoyance when you want to nod to /all, and you nod to only Rathe. ;)

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Message 673 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:48:02 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Not my fault. You see, there is a bug in /all currently. If it tries to bring
up too many names, '/all' turns into 'all'. So in a room with say 10 people,
someone typing '.hug all' outputs 'Bob hugs all'.. THEN my all alias takes in.
If you just fix pose, there won't be a problem :)

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Message 674 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:49:03 1998 CST
From:     Akane (#14270)
To:       *ideas (#504)

removing your alias "all" would do just the same.

Plus we wouldn't have to hug you everytime we typed 'hug /all'.

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Message 675 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:49:43 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

No, it wouldn't. '.hug /all' would still not work, it just would not work in a
different way.

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Message 676 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:49:48 1998 CST
From:     Skywalker (#6644)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  all

Whenever poses with "all" in the pose, it'll sub it for Rathe's name...and
well, we know that's a bitch to see.

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Message 677 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:50:28 1998 CST
From:     Akane (#14270)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Yep

Some poses involve 'all', and it subs Rathe's name for the word "all".

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Message 678 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:51:17 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Some poses involve 'rat', and it subs my name for the word 'rat'. When I try
to 'l s' I end up with Sky's desc, yadda yadda bitch bitch.

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Message 679 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:51:36 1998 CST
From:     Moonheart (#20495)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  ish 

Enough already quinn will either fix it or not ....enough posts about it.

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Message 680 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:52:07 1998 CST
From:     Karcass (#6537)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Ish?

"I don't think that's a word.

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Message 681 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 17:53:45 1998 CST
From:     Moonheart (#20495)
To:       *ideas (#504)

Main Entry:     -ish
Function:       adjective suffix
Etymology:      Middle English, from Old English -isc; akin to Old High German
-isc, -ish, Greek -iskos, diminutive suffix
1 : of, relating to, or being -- chiefly in adjectives indicating nationality
or ethnic group  <Finnish>
2 a : characteristic of  <boyish>  <Pollyannaish> b : inclined or liable to
<bookish>  <qualmish>
3 a : having a touch or trace of  <purplish> : somewhat  <darkish> b : having
the approximate age of  <fortyish>


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Message 682 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 18:07:43 1998 CST
From:     Rathe (#14172)
To:       *ideas (#504)

@compare, akin to what they have on mushes

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Message 683 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 19:11:22 1998 CST
From:     Coreen (#18717)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  An exit message

When First Circle mages gate or teleport from a room, there's currently no
exit message to inform those in the room that the Magus has left :) I think it
would be pretty easy to spot someone dissapearing, but that's just my 2 cents
:)

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Message 684 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 19:17:39 1998 CST
From:     Kynwal (#20497)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  MAgus leaving

More undebugged code because of vacation, thanks!

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Message 685 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Fri Mar 13 22:19:11 1998 CST
From:     Timothy (#20431)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  Coded languages!

'Nuff Said.

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Message 686 from *ideas (#504):
Date:     Sat Mar 14 01:12:17 1998 CST
From:     Resin (#14555)
To:       *ideas (#504)
Subject:  RE: #669 (woo, 669)

Ho, you stole my idea.  Oh well, it still should be done.  Another idea.
Maybe mages have to much stuff right now, so this should be for later, but how
about shielding spells, both for magic and physical attacks?  The magic shield
could cause a defiante backfire on people as long as their focus was within a
certain percentage higher than the caster's.  The physical would just protect
from physical damage for a time.  Keep it in mind.
--Resin  The great sticky one.

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