From quinn@fazigu.org Mon Jul 21 12:05:35 2003 Return-path: Envelope-to: quinn@fazigu.org Received: from constr1-host1.corridor.net ([66.100.236.130] helo=yami.57thstreet.com) by requiem with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19edAL-0000uY-00 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:05:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 94609 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 16:14:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO moo.ghostmoo.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 16:14:11 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:14:11 -0400 From: "Quinn@Ghostwheel" To: quinn@fazigu.org Subject: Ghostwheel Message(s) 9371 - 9473 from *Chat (#5391) X-Mail-Agent: Ghostwheel (moo.ghostmoo.org 6969) Message-Id: Status: RO Content-Length: 67408 Lines: 1876 Message 9371 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 14 13:24:19 2003 EDT From: Vertemis (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: It's fun! Is this the only plot we can muster on Ghostwheel. Just keep destroying everyone's homes, pretty soon, we'll all be squashed together in a tent outside the R/T. We can have camp outs every night. Ughh -------------------------- Message 9372 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 14 14:08:19 2003 EDT From: Jak_the_Yak (#20718) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Go blow a lizard Uh. Why did you say is this the only plot 'we' can muster? You weren't included for a reason so please don't assume you were. -------------------------- Message 9373 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 14 14:52:18 2003 EDT From: Vertemis (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) Oh, but I _am_ included. Why don't you check your facts before you assume you know what you're talking about? -------------------------- Message 9374 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 14 14:59:16 2003 EDT From: Jak_the_Yak (#20718) To: *Chat (#5391) If you're involved then why are you bitching? Come up with a brilliant idea that 'wows' us all or pipe down lady. Gotta love the silent silent partner. He does alot for the game. Or is it because being invited and involved are two different words and now you're bitter? -------------------------- Message 9375 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 14 16:26:00 2003 EDT From: Vertemis (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: It's not my job to come up with plots for you. It's our responcibility to give feedback to the game, otherwise it never grows. I don't expect you to understand that. Here's my feedback: We're constantly hit with these massive land destroying plots. Here's my suggestion, destroy the R/T. Then all those who stand around in the lounge pretending to RP will be forced to roleplay a character, and not just a version of themselves. -------------------------- Message 9376 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 14 16:47:37 2003 EDT From: Jak_the_Yak (#20718) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Hush. Ok, you say you don't like it, but you're involved. Common sense dictates you should abstain from participating in order to stop from looking like a hypocrit. Then, as for me me not giving feedback on the game, perhaps you should read 9340 on *chat, then the next few posts which look alot like feedback to me. Still, 'I don't expect you to understand that'. For our input on the nature of the game we were challenged to do something productive about it ICly. *Enter Red's Plot.* A group of people who have previously expressed their opinions on the ridiculous nature of Mount Morlith are now ICly trying to have it removed. People are taking control of their own 'whining'. You should see that as an example and start doing it yourself. If you think it's such a stupid plot, then fix it with some of your brilliant RP. Ferox has been taking the worst of this whole thing. I'm sure he'd appreciate a little bit of IC help rather than just *chat tantrums. You keep sounding like you want to be left alone. If that's the case then go ahead, I won't complain, but don't make it sound like you and your mech are being unfairly dragged into this. -------------------------- Message 9377 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 14 16:53:42 2003 EDT From: Vertemis (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Mt Morlith So you think the dragon riders are bad OOCly, so you go after them ICly. Ok, I get how you operate now. As for me and my mech, we have nothing to do with this. I just choose to use this character as the account to express my views as a player. It's also not my job to 'fix' your stupid plot. I chose not to RP with you, get over it. Your lame group doesn't consist of all the active players. I'm taking your advice though, I'm removing my character from the 'plot'. I don't want to be left alone, I just don't want to RP with you. Please don't take it too hard. Please respond with a 'I don't want to RP with you either post.' That will make me giggle. -------------------------- Message 9378 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 14 19:14:51 2003 EDT From: Akeashar (#20348) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: TPs. If you guys want a GM hosted TP, give me ideas.. otherwsise stop saying "is this the BEST WE CAN COME IUP WITH OMGWTFROTFL!!!!1!11!1" or whatever. We can't do anything/everything if people don't help. I am more than willing to assisrt i.. assist in any TP ideas (within reason, of course). Ake s... sorry for the mispels, stupid telnet >_< -------------------------- Message 9379 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Jun 15 14:16:01 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: vertemis Stop starting fights for no reason other than gratifying your urge to argue. ok thx -------------------------- Message 9380 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Jun 15 17:53:46 2003 EDT From: Vertemis (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Nny Stop pontificating for no other reason than gratifying your urge to lecture other people. ok thnx *snugs* -------------------------- Message 9382 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Jun 16 15:21:18 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Absents Ok, I probably forgot to tell you all that I moved this weekend.. But my phone got cut off way to soon and I wasn't able to post because I had put it off til the last.. Which was too late.. Anyhow, all moved, all hooked up again so back to the War!! Yeah.. Slash, Kill, Smash!!! Have fun.. me -------------------------- Message 9383 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Jun 16 15:24:45 2003 EDT From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Me too, I'm back.. Stupid Gus not telling you all that we was moving.. sheesh.. And stupid phone company.. Red. -------------------------- Message 9384 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 17 01:29:35 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: 78 on *tp Red told me to post that, he smashed his finger.. Me personally think the mount is a wonderful place and Mages have rose smelling farts. Gus -------------------------- Message 9385 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Jun 19 17:10:49 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Attention please There are now lockpicks in the game. Read their help files if you find them. They won't be easy to find. Thank you drive through. -------------------------- Message 9386 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jun 20 02:48:19 2003 EDT From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Moobash Ok, I think we should figure out a way to organize a Moobash on the westcoast.. If we plan it out it would be a low cost affair with the travel being the biggest expense and then we can maybe find some deals on that.. So we should work on this. So, lets start getting feed back and go from there. Rob aka Red -------------------------- Message 9387 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jun 20 08:37:40 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Moobash How about a temporary mailing list for Moobash stuff, it'll suck up some quota for a short time, but can be deleted after. Then the people who don't want to go to a bash or don't give a damn about it also don't have to read about it. If they are interested, they can subscribe to it. Also, it would make it easier for everyone to see whats going on instead of paging people and things getting all mixed up because no one knows what anyone is doing. Just my two canadian cents, spend it how you wish. -------------------------- Message 9388 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jun 20 13:23:42 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Moobash I'm interested if you all just come to my city... :) -------------------------- Message 9389 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jun 20 14:17:34 2003 EDT From: Magdalena (#22921) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: New *List All righty, for those who are interested, I've created a public *list named *MOObash. If you have any interest, subscribe. Mags. -------------------------- Message 9390 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Jun 23 10:21:26 2003 EDT From: Darius_Lee (#10280) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: for those who know me :0 For those who care and want to contact me :) (Yes me from eons ago) My new e-mail is dariuslee@redjellyfish.net DL -------------------------- Message 9391 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 10:20:53 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: hi kiddies Hi Kids. Just a few things to get off my chest so I can watch the fireworks that come from it. Just a wee list from me to you. I now declare it open season on any mech I find or hear of in a tent. Not only will it be pounded into the ground and looted of anything I can get, it will be dragged back to my place and made into a monument to Favoritism (Icly I think Rain is big enough to do it) Ayep. With the help of lockpicks and friends, your mechs are no longer safe. The ones that have always been openly in the game (the firezone ones and others) I'll leave alone since they are the same ones that were there before the 'no mech in tent ruling' and the funny thing is, the numbers of mechs in the game didnt change after that ruling, except mine got booted out of one the moment it was implimented. Sorry about the The Majestic, but sad thing was..she was found in a tent. Guess i'm now a classic Rogue pilot. And if anyone wants to bitch about Raindancer being able to pack away a mechs weapons, now is the time to do it. Now for my Monument. I have a wee list of things to go on it. Enjoy 1) High statted newbies that are not even a week old. If its some GM thing then have the good grace to put NPC or 'I humped a GM' on your sheet. Obviously you had the time to get stats, you have the time to get your @sheet set. I'll put a small plaque somewhere near the middle of my monument for you guys/girls. Ask Icly about high stats I was told, now isnt that just stupid, cause what character icly would say they are an NPC or a GM Pet..puleeease. My beef isnt with the high atts persay, its with the fact that it makes the rest of us feel like bottom feeders who are supposed to just shut up and not question anything that goes on in the game. Im questioning it. Personally I think some GM fixed character should be here just for a plot and then the stats get reset or they get toasted..but it should say so on their sheet. Cause otherwise, I'd like some high atts that I didnt work for too. If they are here for RP..do they need stats? I play quite well with Eryn..who has NEWBIE stats. Thank you very much! Frankly I feel ripped off and pissed off that I wasted so much time and effort crystal hunting for Xrara. P.S. A note on the @sheet would be nice. Ask a GM you might say, did that/tried that and got 'no comment, ask them' umm..thanks for the concern and help. So..since I do have some choices in this game. Those nice high statted newbies..ignore me and my alts please, cause I wont be interacting in any 'RP' that requires atts to 'emote' unless someone fesses up. Thanks again! 2) Dante..sweet Dante, Devon, Kijindei etc...If OOcly you ever tell me again that 'you wont let me scare off another RPer' I'll twink your ass back to the eagle as many times as I can. Im saving your head for the crowning glory of my monument, be proud..be honored.. Although I didnt do it alone, there was basically NO Rp happening here until I brought out Eryn, then people started showing up because it was new and different and there was the chance of fireworks or someone getting killed. I've put a lot of time RPing into this game over the years, and until last night have never accidently or intentionally killed anyone. I've never randomly looted players, but I might just start now. Thanks for letting me see the light. And by the way, while it does say nothing in GAME ALTS about alts being in the same room as each other, it does have this to say....Alts are also not allowed to know each other, be related, trade items or information back and forth between them, or to spar with each other. This goes back to keeping the memories of one alt separate from those memories of your other. Having your alts interact in -any- way is -cheating-...but what do I know. I kinda thought that Kijindei was Devon or Dantes son. Guess thats not a real relation. But I guess that means I can bring Jamie back from the dead and sweet Eryn can have her mommy back. She'll love that..so will Red and Grady. Thats all I have to say for now. To recap if you dont feel like scrolling back through the spam to see the entire post. I declare it open season on any mech I find/hear of in a tent. I now refuse to RP or interact with high atted newbies. And I may be using Dantes head for the crowning glory of my monument. I did have more to say, but that requires more coffee. Have a great day! P.S. Im not giving you my two cents, get your own damn money. -------------------------- Message 9392 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 11:36:08 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Right. Right. Alts aren't that big of a deal because I don't see my characters healing, attacking, or doing anything in each others defense. Kijindei, is Devon's son, but calling a foul that I can appear as an alt right after another one of my characters is unconscious isn't in the rules. And you know why? Because *you* and your collective group have a horrible habit of not only looting, which is within the rules, but you LEAVE PEOPLE FUCKING UNCONSCIOUS FOR OVER 30 MINUTES, until one of the nice players comes along and revives them. Now, don't get me wrong, you guys play the game how you want to. But frankly, if I played your type of game, I'd be pathetically, and horrible bored out of my mind that I wouldn't even want to play here. I like action, and struggles between conflicting emotions within my characters. Considering the nights events, theres only one way for you guys to solve anything, codedly. And the funny thing is that all too often since you're all good friends IC and OOC, that me, being the target of the combat, isn't all that fun. But you know what? I'm still playing, so are the so called 'newbies' with uber stats. See, 'unfair' is a big word. You think it's unfair they have good stats, because you earned them. Why did you earn them? To prove that you're stronger then everyone so that when push comes to shove, you can just *smack* them down, and then you'll know you're right? I don't appeal to that kind of combat, and honestly if I can prevent it from happening, then most of my characters save perhaps Dante, you'll notice they're rather sacrificial lambs in terms of 'rescuing others'. But I've complained enough for this one post. If anything you need to understand it's that I can stop logging in Devon if it's that much of an issue for you, even if I'm not doing a single thing, but I will feel free to login any other of my alts and bring them prancing into the lounge, while you summarily beat, rape, strip, rob, or do whatever it is you want to do, because to be honest with you, there hasn't been one time yet where I was unconscious that you guys didn't do something besides just knocking me out. -------------------------- Message 9393 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 11:38:25 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: In case you forgot my dear boy "The one and only time I've attacked one of your alts, Dante, is last night when YOU chose to go coded over RP. So spare me your bullshit, please. -------------------------- Message 9394 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 12:14:43 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: previous Ok, should post this as Red cause he is meaner than I am.. But so I got a split personality thing going with my alts.. Keeps you guys guessing just how crazy I really am. First off.. Ed, Dante, Devon, Yggy, ect... You silly little monkey.. Here is a strange truth, I consider you a friend. Ok, you are a pest and kinda an annoying kid but you do have a side is likable.. My few rl meetings with you have been considered some of the best times in my life.. Ok there was some serious sexy women around at the same time so I didn't have to just look at you but hey.. You was there.. And you was a good sport. (Besides, my mom got aggravated with me for being mean to you.. Imagine that.. She was a good woman.) But You gotta take your medicine.. This so called I'm a grand player who is not into using the combat system to rp is just a bit silly considering some of your alts pasts.. And as for being looted and KO'd, you are the only one besides the pesty Mirg that ever did that to Red.. You looted him and KO'd him using information from one of your other alts.. You even knocked out your other alt to do it. So don't go all (my shit don't stink) on us. Deal with the game as it is being played by the majority of the players or sit and spin as someone use to say in my day.. I wonder what that means.. So get over it.. I really enjoyed your rp last night, except for the Devon thing coming in and going out thing.. That was just pesky.. And I really enjoyed the slapstick antics of the running about trying to kill Dante and Mirg or who ever it was.. That was just funny.. KInda like Abbott and Castello meet the mummy, except it was Clock and Mirg meet the Dante.. Or something like that.. I laughed so hard.. Now for the super stat issue.. The thing that agravates me most is this.. It was used, then caught and stopped and nothing else was done. It has happened in the past with differant things like focus and such.. And what agravates me is that it was taken away before I could ever take advantage of it.. Damnit.. See the thing is if there is something like that, either everyone should be allowed a chance to use it, or the few that did use it should have a set back.. Because I regret rerolling Red something terrible, but I've tried to get his stats back honestly.. I've tried sparring, I've tried just about everything and it bores me to tears advance them faster than just getting out and playing.. I'm even horribl at hunting cause it is so dreadfully boring unless you use a trigger and watch tv at the same time... So that is that. It isn't funny to be KO'd by a character who is 5 days old when you have worked so hard. I honestly don't like the KO thing keeping you out for hours.. That is just turn the damn thing off and go watch tv agravating cause it ends the play right there.. For folk that don't work and can sit in front of a computer 24/7 that is dandy, they can go polish something or other.. But some of us actually have dreadful lives in the real world where we go to work, deal with the boss, get kicked in the butt all day by idiots, then we get on a freeway and deal with crazy idiots driving all the way back home.. Sometimes we got to go to the store for this and that and people steal your parking space.. So we come on home, turn on the damn computer and go to our favorite game in the world where we've wasted countless hours of our short lives.. Just to be KO'd and left in the middle of nowhere with nothing but our panties.. We demand Justice!! Or we are going to turn to road rage and then it is going to be all your fault.. Or worse we'll go postal.. See how important this game is?? Real life could get terrible dangerous.. That is why all them idiots are doing all them stupid mean things, cause they can't Moo.. Ok, so that is a proper rant.. I hope I made some sense in there somewhere.. Gus -------------------------- Message 9395 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 12:37:40 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Gus Just imagine, most games you die you die, that's it, no more character. You guys have it easy here. -------------------------- Message 9396 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 12:43:02 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Death I happen to like games like that. Keeps characters new and recreating themselves. Always someone new to RP with..and not the same old character that you've known the life history of for the last 6 years. An oldbie on a game like that is someone you really wonder about, specially if they are still out in play. And it keeps the flow of toys moving..except for those people who like to log on guests or get friends to go and collect their stuff from their corpse. But you cant win either way..not dying or by actual death. -------------------------- Message 9397 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 12:43:20 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Nny Say it isn't so!! NO I don't wanna die!! I want to be the center of the universe!! Geesh I get it that you don't die.. I think that the game premise covers the not dying part pretty well.. Easy it is.. Miserable coming back and having to go on.. Very few actually care to play it that way.. But believe me I do relize we don't actually die and have to make a new character every 5 minutes.. That would be agravating as well.. And I've played on games like that where you die and it flashes *GAME OVER* and I don't like that either.. Especially since you got to do so much work in character set up.. Now if it was like Donkey Kong where you got the same monkey each time that would be differant.. The challange isn't staying alive, the challange is getting all the stuff that is locked behind closed doors and totally harashing and flirting with all the girls.. Geesh.. -------------------------- Message 9398 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 15:30:40 2003 EDT From: Oberon (#22725) To: *Chat (#5391) Did anyone else miss the fact that Xrara said she would ICly attack Ed's characters if he OOCly made a comment? Interesting. -------------------------- Message 9399 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 15:35:55 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: How astute of you, Oberon Yes I OOCly said I'd Icly do that. Since that is what in essence I've been accused of being..a twink. If you read that post at all..you also would of seen me saying I'll -twink- his ass to the eagle and back. And if you did more than just log in, post, and leave..you might of seen the discussion about it already between me and Dante. So spare me, cause I don't see him bitching about it. Have a nice day! -------------------------- Message 9400 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 16:11:38 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Oi. People. I only made a statement to Xrara initially, because, I feel that the game will improve with more players, I could care less about stats. Second of all Red, if you'd recall, I 'killed' and 'looted' you with my dragon, the one you had killed moments ago because he was guardian, what Yerox, and he felt, was his home. He'd been killed 3 times prior that weak. He was pissed, you were at his home. I took the blade, and Red being Red, wouldn't apoligize. So I dropped it in a volcano. I didn't bitch when you @moved it back either. The 'Dante' thing, I didn't mind, hell I didn't even complain. What the problem I SAW IS, that Xrara and Elendil didn't return Kijindei's stolen items because I roleplayed, or even because I complained ICly, they feel that somehow Bishamon is my bitch, and if I whine to him, then I get you all in trouble. The only time you got in trouble, is because you had the chaingun, which if it was supposed to be in play, then Akea would have given it back. Frankly, he didn't. I could complain about a lot less, because frankly, I feel vindicated in the fact that there is zero game balance, and that most of the game is in fact grossly overpowered in almost all regards. If you want, I'll post about that, but frankly, if you want to complain about my alts, then go to an admin, theres a lot of them, if they want me to stop playing so many characters then have them tell me the reason and I'll stop. Until I help my characters with another though, I don't see the bloody point. -------------------------- Message 9401 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 16:20:44 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Oi. People. Second of all Dante, I was not refering to the ic death by the dragon.. I thought that was a hoot.. and Red didn't @move his sword back.. He did what you said and got a mage to help him just not you.. And That was ok cause he waited like a week icly before it all happened.. Plus you had not really dropped it into a volcano seeing that you ejected it before your dragon died again which is the only way it would of ended up in $nothing. So blah.. I'm talking way way back silly.. -------------------------- Message 9402 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 16:58:19 2003 EDT From: Ceri (#24980) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: got this on my answering machine, dont know where to send it ----- Safyre (#24466) @ Mon Jun 23 12:24:51 2003 CDT ----- Safyre pages, "you make me a recomb tiger and name him Deathstroke?" -------------------------- Message 9403 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 19:54:37 2003 EDT From: Oberon (#22725) To: *Chat (#5391) So its okay to be a twink if they accuse you of being a twink? .. I will have a nice day. Thank you, Xrara! I love you! -------------------------- Message 9404 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 19:56:03 2003 EDT From: Elendil (#2237) To: *Chat (#5391) You don't have a clue, Oberon. Xrara is one of the least twinkish people on here. If getting pissed at one of Dante's 45 alts is the hallmark of twinkdom, I think we're all card-carrying members. -------------------------- Message 9405 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 19:56:22 2003 EDT From: Heretic (#6143) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: coded combat is always consented to... Kill and loot, have fun.. H -------------------------- Message 9406 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 20:24:32 2003 EDT From: Oberon (#22725) To: *Chat (#5391) No, but I'm pretty sure IC actions for OOC reasons is twinkish. But I'm weird like that. Don't worry, if this post makes you feel bad, you can always loot Oberon. ;) -------------------------- Message 9407 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 20:30:34 2003 EDT From: Elendil (#2237) To: *Chat (#5391) Your posts don't make me feel sad, they make me want to test your water for lead content. Maybe she wants to kick his ass OOCly. And for a little perspective, I've lost track of the basic OOC/IC breaches I've seen Dante commit in various forms. So keep defending him if you want, you won't convince anyone, and it'll just reflect back on you anyway. -------------------------- Message 9408 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jun 24 20:36:52 2003 EDT From: Oberon (#22725) To: *Chat (#5391) I never once said I was defending Dante. I just think its a little hypocritical to call him a cheater and then threaten to cheat. And the sad thing was sarcasm. Three syllables, I know, but I thought you could handle it. Ooo look. I can make snide comments too. I must be cool. -------------------------- Message 9409 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 00:26:19 2003 EDT From: Vertemis (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: I saw a murderer once So now I can kill whoever I want. I also saw a robbery on TV, so I plan to make a fortune from bank heists. I'm not a criminal though. Someone else did it first. -------------------------- Message 9410 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 00:57:49 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Twinking IC/OOC crossover is IC/OOC crossover no matter who you're targetting and how annoying they are. Obviously, such situations are difficult to document. However, if I see OOC conversations or catch wind of such conversations such as: "Boy, Joe Bob sure is a dickhead. I'm going to kill all his alts." I'll crack down on you kids faster than you can say premature ejaculation. There's plenty of IC reasons to kill each other. OOC hate doesn't foster any kind of communal RP experience. It even degrades the value of hack and slash. ok thx Nny -------------------------- Message 9411 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 08:17:42 2003 EDT From: Elendil (#2237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Various -n- sundry Well, while we're talking in hypotheticals, I welcome insight in how to respond to what I feel are the following breaches of IC protocol or whatever else you wish to call it: 1) Walking an alt around with a group of people and leaving it idle in the room wherever they go simply to listen in on them. 2) Moving the names of your alts around (without rerolling any characters) in order to use valueless alts as decoys for one you cherish. 3) After assuming various hidden exits would protect your alt, leaving all its stuff lying around, and then getting huffy and @moving it all back when it's taken ICly. The point is that I understand Xrara's frustration 100%. I understand that RP and IC are often subjective and nebulous concepts, yet every day I observe obvious violations of them by a few select anointed individuals. If the rules are going to be unequally enforced anyway, I hardly see a reason for people at the receiving end of such breaches to simply sit there and take it. Do I think Xrara has an IC reason to clonk every Dante alt she meets on the head? No. Do I think she has the right to? Hell yes. After all, if half the time those alts are already abusing IC guidelines, what's the difference? Oh, and please try to refrain from using one alt to support another in an OOC discussion. -E -------------------------- Message 9412 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 09:02:08 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Killing people If anyone cared to get to know me or RP with me, they would know I don't PK and rarely if -ever- attack anyone without being attacked first. The one and only time I killed a Dante alt, he attacked me first. So..you can bitch about my post all you wish, but basically you don't know squat about who I am or how I play my characters. You want to make an issue of it, get Dante's backing for it, cause otherwise what I had to say to him doesnt concern any of you until I step over that wavy OOC/IC line. I could of easily of paged it instead, giving you folk NOTHING to comment on. And Thank you, Elendil, for taking the time to get to know me and how I play the game. -------------------------- Message 9413 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 09:11:42 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Umm and on a side note. I have reason IC reason to kill -some- of dante's alts anyway, I dont need the OOC ones. But unless you can get into my brain and decide that I chose to kill him on such and such a day because of what I think OOcly or what I believe ICly, you dont have much of a case. For all your bitching Vert/Ober, Dante alts dont seem to fear being near me. o/~How sweet it is to be loved by you o/~ -------------------------- Message 9414 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 10:35:50 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Uh. Hi As for the 'idling' Yerox, last night. I was sparring, I'm allowed to do that in the other window right? Second of all, when did this game get reduced to who has the biggest hoard to feel they're special? Why are you actively seeking to loot, and rape anything not pinned down. Sure, I sometimes have walked into a persons house and seen their things laying around, but I don't just rip them off blind because I can. Read the game premise, suspension of belief. It means THERES MORE PEOPLE AROUND THEN YOU ACTUALLY SEE. ;p Next, there was never a period of time that Xrara did anything to me. She's not a twink, I haven't directly said she did anything everyone else just loves to twist my words around. What has happened? I've yet to come out for RP that didn't end in violence. I'm fighting against others who are using possibly the most overpowered weapons in the game for the cheapest amount of crystals. And lastly, I have no backup, not one person, but I'm still trying to play. Honestly, I want to know what your mindset of this game is? If you want to go acting like you're a bunch of pirates, stealing everything you can in site, then I suggest you talk to one of the GM's to entertain you with your concepts of unlimited loot. Until then, stealing from other players is just going to piss them the hell off, and make them quit. -------------------------- Message 9415 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 10:36:01 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Spear I'd like Kijindei's spear back, thank you very much. I had it in my inventory last night. Maybe I gave it away in some fit of niceness and forgetfulness, but I don't believe so. Nor did I get KO'd or so fatigued that I dropped it. And yes, I know I have two other spears already, but those are not his. -------------------------- Message 9416 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 12:16:58 2003 EDT From: Oberon (#22725) To: *Chat (#5391) Get to know me! It will justify it! Get to know me. If you did, you would know the Vertemis and I are different people OOCly. Buts it fun to base insults off blind assumptions, isn't it? And for all your talk about "nebulous" IC concepts and Xrara having the "right to cheat" just tells me how little integrity you have. If the only way you can see someone responding to cheating is to cheat themselves, then I'm really sorry about your outlook life. Well, not sorry persay, but I certainly get why ya'll don't mind cheating. And I'm pretty sure having concern about the rules you guys so obviously don't care about, unless Ed is breaking them, isn't bitching. Having a group of IC people all working together based on things you so obviously hate OOCly is just shallow. Play a character, not some superpowered avatar of yourself on screen. Yeesh. -------------------------- Message 9417 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 12:24:57 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: umm Who said we banded together out of things we hate Oocly? Actually, we bonded together out of things we hate Icly, but you wouldn't know that. Start reading @sheets. Ele is suspicious etc of dragons and riders and will attack them. Mech pilots have no use for dragons/mages. Red has always hated mages and dragon riders. Mirg happens to hate everyone. Owen just likes to gather stories...etc. Of course, you can condemn us for boosting our atts/stats when there is no one else online to hang out with. The stat whores we all are. But perhaps if you cared to look at our alts, you'd see most of us only have one character with any sort of stats. And actually, as a side note, none of us are as tough as the stat whores before us - Rathe, Toraxyn, Kzin, Slayer..damn it, and here I thought they used to RP..and not pretend to be superpowered avatars of themselves. -------------------------- Message 9418 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 12:31:46 2003 EDT From: Oberon (#22725) To: *Chat (#5391) They...did used to RP. I know I'm getting a little rusty in my old age, but I'm pretty sure I was talking about you guys when I said that. Hmm. And I'm also pretty sure I didn't mention anything about sparring or statwhores, but I guess you can search for arguements if you like. The superpowered thing was the fact that the characters here are stronger than most of is IRL. -------------------------- Message 9419 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 12:46:59 2003 EDT From: FoxFire (#22153) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Eh, hmm. Eh, does anyone know of any good Cuban resturants in the city? I've been fiending for some good cuban food for a while. :) -------------------------- Message 9420 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 13:09:11 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: foxfire which city? :P -------------------------- Message 9421 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 13:16:23 2003 EDT From: Sparhawk (#2572) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: knowing Xrara Well, we all know Xrara is a burly, lumberjackin', beer-guzzlin' fella named George from Kentucky. And since we all know it, it's _easy_ to understand why someone can feel a certain way towards altish twink(ies). -------------------------- Message 9422 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 14:43:02 2003 EDT From: Heretic (#6143) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Claws Price now 7000 H -------------------------- Message 9423 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 17:02:57 2003 EDT From: FoxFire (#22153) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re: nny NYC. :) -------------------------- Message 9424 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 18:47:57 2003 EDT From: Camber (#22034) To: *Chat (#5391) I've been to Don Pedro's on 96th and 2nd, it's pretty good. Not specifically cuban, more of a Latin American/Island mix. It's about average as far as NYC food costs go, but the food is definitely worth it. There are some others that fodors and citysearch will recommend, but I haven't been to any of them personally. -------------------------- Message 9425 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 18:49:40 2003 EDT From: Camber (#22034) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: oh yeah and not to get off thread, blah blah blah, cheating, @moving, whining, Ed sucks, Elendil likes using chainguns to kill dragons, blah blah blah, alt switching, statwhores, killbop, blah blah blah. -------------------------- Message 9426 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jun 25 21:02:32 2003 EDT From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: My TURN! First off, Nny you ain't the daddy!! You silly kid.. Second off, *sobs* I'm so sorry Dante.. I'll let you fall on my sword if it will make you feel better. Third, MMMMmmmm, Xrara the lumber jack.. OH dead sexy.. Oh I got an image.. Mmmmm.. No babe in a red, white and blue bikini could compare to a hot canadian in flannel!! Forth, Mmmmm, Xrara... Number Five.. Mmmm, Elendil... His gils are the sweetest.. Nice Butt too.. Sixth, Mirg is just darn right fangish Mean.. Who is that guy! Ok, I forgot where I was going with that so I'll stop.. Mmmm, Xrara... Anyhow.. have fun! -------------------------- Message 9427 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Jun 26 08:06:43 2003 EDT From: DragonBabe (#5288) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re: Red & Dragons/Riders Hrm..I remember that time Red was a DragonRider..wor a short while. He developed a crush on Yjezra, too. Kidnapped her, tried to force her into marriage... Then he also kidnapped Myst and - didn't he kidnap Etra, too? Held them and turned them into his slaves and attempted to set up a harem! Hehe... Red spent some time in the Morlith Prison, when the Mount had a prison.. Should have padded the walls! *smooch* Love ya, Red.. Play on through, folks, and ENJOY! -------------------------- Message 9428 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Jun 26 12:03:51 2003 EDT From: Ylaerin (#16541) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: #9427 Just to clear up a rumor, here -- Red never kidnapped Etra. He did, however, kidnap Myst & Thistle/Jamie (whom, you may recall, he later married). I'd hate for Etra's reputation to be sullied. -_^ -jess / etra -------------------------- Message 9429 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Jun 26 12:42:07 2003 EDT From: FoxFire (#22153) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Camber Thanx. I'll check it out. -------------------------- Message 9430 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Jun 26 20:30:39 2003 EDT From: DragonBabe (#5288) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re: Fires! Check out the forest fires around Tucson..And people say all we have is desert down here? http://www.azstarnet.com -------------------------- Message 9431 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Jun 26 20:36:05 2003 EDT From: DragonBabe (#5288) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re: Fires in Tucson Okay! Gotta clarify this. No, these are not cactus fires..well, down at the edges of the mts alot of old Suquaro are being burnt, but check the slide shows for lots of Pics of old growth, and new growth, forests.. Oh, and if you go to CNN.com (they have been giving better news coverage in town here than our locals), type in Tucson Fires and it will take you to their links..Some beautiful country being renewed..Natures way But, geesh the smoke/particulates are making my nose/sinus', throat and lungs burn and rasp like the devil.. I just thought some would be interested in seeing that Az isnt just sand and brush and catus. *grins*\. -------------------------- Message 9432 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Jun 26 20:39:59 2003 EDT From: DragonBabe (#5288) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re: Kidnappings Oops, Mea Culpa, Etra... I -did- say I 'thought'? My memory has gone. *DB hugs Etra and becomes her slave* -------------------------- Message 9433 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jun 27 00:17:36 2003 EDT From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: the missing rider babe I napped.. Ysuelt with the clicky hair is the one.. actually she was the first one Red napped ever.. Him and Chaos :) -------------------------- Message 9434 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jun 27 08:29:25 2003 EDT From: Aquilya (#4188) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Yseult. Clicky beaded braid chick. I miss her. :) -------------------------- Message 9435 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 28 00:53:43 2003 EDT From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: After wading through 45 posts 1. There is no game balance and never will be because the Arch of this MOO doesn't give a shit about the game, never has and never will. Notice I said the GAME, not the MOO. He loves the MOO. It's one of his favorite testbeds for code. Which is why there will never be game balance because he doesn't give a shit about how that code will effect the game. He just wants to see how the pretty, sparkly new stuff works and if it runs off players or screws up the game, oh well...Now if it's tracebacks or screwy code screwing with the game that's another story. Otherwise, we're all just a grand experiment. 2. Anyone in the game is more then welcome to knock me out and loot me. There are a couple of conditions though; you have to catch me IC (Not bloody likely anymore) and you have to find something worth looting. I don't own anything you can't get from any standard replicator. Last "special weapon" I had was in my possession less then 48 hours before I gave it away. In the meantime I'll keep logging in and reading the mail just to get the ocassional giggle. But I'll spend my game playing time on a much better written and run MMORPG. Thanks. Flame on kiddies. -------------------------- Message 9436 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 28 01:09:39 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: After wading through 45 posts My goodness.. Such a bitter person.. I wonder if it is from going through the change?? Most likely hormonal I'd expect.. And you'd think she'd be all tickled pink considering the Supreme courts ruling this last week.. She can take it up the butt if she wants.. so no reason to be bitter anymore.. Such a sweet human.. Gosh.. -------------------------- Message 9437 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 28 01:20:46 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: previous Just wanted to say I'm kind of feel bad for being so mean.. But I am perfectly happy with GW and I've had my share of being a butthead.. But cowardly people who log in and post and log off are just agravating.. If they feel so mean spirited go kick the dog or the husband.. Not my moo! *grins* -------------------------- Message 9438 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 28 01:57:08 2003 EDT From: Mikishi (#24590) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: y'allz need to chizzill yo, save yo drama for yo mama cuz, sheeiit. y'allz got them panties wadded up in yo' ass-cracks, fo sho. keep it on the d/l. chuuuch. -------------------------- Message 9439 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 28 19:18:14 2003 EDT From: FoxFire (#22153) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Eh, yeah Eh, right on Mikishi. :) -------------------------- Message 9440 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 28 21:48:01 2003 EDT From: Ylaerin (#16541) To: *Chat (#5391) It is comforting to know that, even in this crazy, topsy-turvy world, some things never change. - jess -------------------------- Message 9441 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jun 28 21:53:17 2003 EDT From: Yak_the_Ninjak (#20718) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Say What? Ok, as for the 'KO me and loot me whenever' thing, I totally agree with you 100% because that's how I believe it should be. Anyone can loot me. Even if I'm idle. It makes me hot. But, as for the whole bitching about the Arch? Go fist yourself. I like the code here, it's why I stay, and I think the whole point of having GM's ("Game Masters" apparently) is to have them worry about the plot and roleplay horse shit, not the Arch. Yak-Fu -------------------------- Message 9442 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Jun 30 17:47:54 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Sparring. Now offering sparring sessions, 500 crystals per hour. -------------------------- Message 9443 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Jul 2 15:02:25 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: So, after some consideration on my part. While the personal attacks against me, not the physical ones aren't recognized, I gave my actions some thought. First of all, I am overly critical of many of the players that I feel aren't doing the right thing, but only out of concern for others. The obviously problem is that in the process I am in generally pissing off the general population by arguing till I am blue in the face. So, while you may feel that my actions were a cry for attention, I assure you that the reason I am being such a bitch, is because I feel I am not being respected. But obviously, the matter is that this is in truth a game, and it is as much a place for you to relax, as it is for me. In light of that, I will try very hard to be not so overly critical of your actions, and I apoligize. I'm sorry for being a ass and I hope that you will at least recognize that I was more worried about the state of the game, then I was interested in a pissing contest. -------------------------- Message 9444 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 4 01:45:44 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Happy 4th I most likely won't be on much tomorrow, I have to work and then going to a blow things up party later on tomorrow afternoon.. So you all take care and have a good one.. Red's coming with me seeing as he lives in my head.. so he won't be on either. Gus. -------------------------- Message 9445 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 5 00:16:21 2003 EDT From: Yak_the_Ninjak (#20718) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: After entirely too long... Ok, so this doesn't apply to alot of you, but this is the only way I can reach enough people without forgetting some. I argued with Dante and alts for a long time over [Public] today and we came to only a few conclusions. A) I'm a prick. B) Dante (et. al) is not having any fun with the way the players are attacking him. C) The two playing styles do not mesh in any sense of the word. Yak the Prick. So, if the collective 'we' stop picking on him and attacking him, he has promised to stop seeking out 'our' group when we are simply hanging out in our less than conventional method of Roleplay. If he does not seek 'us' then we won't kill him. As a common courtesy 'we' shouldn't seek him out to kill him. This whole thing has gotten so ridiculous that avoidance is the only way to keep any dignity and refrain from chasing people from the game. So, I hope that all of the people I claim to have as part of the crew I hang in can say that they won't pester him as long as we don't have forced interactions. There will be the rare time when RP is forced through mutual friends, but we can all be civil then right? Until then, if it's the people he doesn't like he won't show up and we won't hunt him down. If you're good enough to agree please send a post to *chat saying that this is 'OK' by you so Dante knows that we are trying to extend some good faith and not force the neutral players to listen to my non-stop arguing on [Public]. -------------------------- Message 9446 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 5 03:18:09 2003 EDT From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re: previous I graduated High School 22 years ago, so I won't be told to play nice.. I'm Red Fang!! Red has openly declared war on Dante and Rathe and had Declared war on the Dragonriders.. I don't see Myst posting a sob story about being picked on.. The humans, behind Rathe and Dante are pretty cool people.. I enjoy their company when I have met them in the world.. I find both of them to be above average in most ways. Ok, Dante and I had a bit of a slide.. And I did some things I wasn't proud of in the past but I hope Dante forgave me for that.. Childishly it was funny, but also it wasn't very nice of me and reflected more on my bad character than his. But through it all he was a good sport. But as for Dante or any of his alts, If Red don't like them he's gonna find a way to make them cry and bleed and hopefully avoid letting Dante do that to him.. Red's really a big baby who crys so much when he's attacked that it causes a high tide.. Honestly I found a few problems with my own character, I know that is a shock to some of you.. I have appeared to be practicly perfect for so many years.. Heck if I was a female they'd call me Mary Poppens.. *grins* But yeah, I got some faults.. So what am I saying?? Don't be so hard on yourself Yak.. Yeah people tend to attack people because of their characters actions.. And I will promise I will try not to do that anymore.. But as for attacking characters who I don't icly like as my character.. Well that isn't going to happen.. Both Dante and Rathe are going down!! Red's swears it!! No way I'm giving up!! They can hide and Red can hide but eventually someone is going to slip up.. Then we'll see.. And so, in admitting my wrongs, I hope some people can sit back and say.. Hmm.. I reckon I did some wrongs too.. And then shut up and play the game.. Big Babies!! Ok... I have a headache and my eyes are itchy and I didn't get to drink as much as I wanted so I posted a bunch of nonsense most likely.. so ignore it if you want... *hugs all around* Red There are typo's and misspelled words.. I was going to correct them but I forgot to.. so deal with it.. It is also probably all a run on sentence.. But so is my mouth at times.. *grins* -------------------------- Message 9447 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 5 03:24:35 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) But one has to recognize, that your decleration of war, along with 7 allies you possess, are on, only me, and Myst. I tried being mature about it, I tried 'fighting' back. But clearly, some people can't see beyond, "Ed is a twink. He plays multiple alts to spy for him, we can't trust him. Ignoring the fact that Ferox was attacked, Tyrrsaalth was killed, Dante was betrayed, Kijindei was a annoying little brat, did I mention that all his alts suck?" And then demands are made of me, that *I* should not bother to come outside to places people are roleplaying, because *I* am not welcome. And the second I do show up with an alt who isn't absolutely worthless in combat, I die instantly. Because, I'm the only opposition, and you just have got to kill it. I doubt that Yak's idea will work, because you're all not going to avoid me. I apoligized, because I honestly thought I was wrong, but clearly it is not enough. -------------------------- Message 9448 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 5 03:26:56 2003 EDT From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Also Red isn't responsible for anyone else who is considered to be in his gang.. He just says stupid things kinda like the president and then people listen. Isn't his fault.. Kinda like ol Ronald and that who Iran contra thing.. Yeah that is it.. Isn't my fault my guys used money to buy the enemy of my enemy weapons so they could get drugs to buy more weapons for something else.. I forgot what it was all about.. But you get the point.. Only thing Red is responsible for is Red.. Which is enough.. If anyone is silly enough to do what Red says then it is jsut darn right funny.. -------------------------- Message 9449 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 5 03:39:56 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Responsbility, whats that? I don't think you're the bad guy Red, and honestly I don't think anyone is. But the fact is that this simple IC thing has grown well beyond even an OOC vendetta, into down right vicious intent to do harm to me. I've been constantly hearing day after day, how I am a no life loser, who has no social contact and that apparently my life here is causing me mental distress. Frankly, the OOC abuse that I could tolerate is at its limit. I can deal with the IC consequences, but some people truly feel that I am a lousy cheating son of a bitch with no value to the game. I have done *nothing* in their eyes that is even worth a crap, and that because of it whatever they can do to ruin whatever fun I have here makes them feel better about themselves. Honestly? I could care less, because as much as I argue, I don't let it control my life. I forget whatever it was I was even talking about 5 minutes after it happens because I'm pretty easy going. So addressing my so called 'cheating', the main focus seems to be on alts. Apparently, I use Kijindei, or Yerox, to spy for Dante, so that I can come inside, listen to conversations, and use OOC info ICly. Right? First of all, Dante has this little spell called scry, it shows him rooms, locations, and can find you virtually anywhere. Second of all, Rhianna, if you'd bother to actually read storyline posts, is carrying around a sword, that Dante has cast spells on. Thats right, there is magic on the sword that Dante can basically eavesdrop on any situation with the little girl being there. Thats how he knew about Red, not Kijindei listening. And yes, guess what, I found you guys at the desert rat with @rp, because I wanted to maybe, I don't know, roleplay? But, of course, you have to kill him 5 times over, and I come back, because it's the *only* thing I can do in the situation. So I can either back the hell off, and roll over and play dead, or I can continue to be the most impossible, pain in the ass, that you guys have ever delt with. Because I'm not going to stop, if you're not going to stop also. As much as you'd love to make me out as a bad guy, who cheats, the sole fact remains that I have yet to kill anyone. I tortured Red because he betrayed Dante, and I took wolfblade for an IC reason you'll just have to find out. I looted and killed Clockwork, because so far, he's killed me 4 times. Now if you'd like to list exactly what I'm doing wrong, besides acting in whatever manner I have done, I'd be glad to change because I'm just that sort of guy. Frankly, however, I don't think you'll ever be satisfied. Like the old saying goes, give an inch, and they'll take a mile. Chances are, I'm at the end of that road, and no I'm not going to quit for your sake. End Rant. ;p -------------------------- Message 9450 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 5 09:59:04 2003 EDT From: Elendil (#2237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: A few tidbitteries 1) Thanks to Yak for his thoughtful diplomacy. 2) Retroactively rationalizing events with magick is cheap and lazy. If someone scries and then shows up, that's perfectly fair. If someone shows up for no apparent reason, and then later says "Oh, it was my, ah, magick." then it grates a bit. It is obvious that we cannot force others to maintain proper boundaries between their alts, but we can at least have a good laugh about it. 3) RP is most fun when it is formless and free-range. I think most RP problems tend to arise when folks have a pre-determined destination they want their RP to arrive at, no matter the cost. This inevitably leads to conflict among the RPers, particularly if many were there prior to the latest arrival, and particularly when the new arrival wants a fight. In short, if you're looking for trouble, don't whine when you get it. 4) Red Fang and Dalte both wish to police the place. Red does it ICly, Dalte does it over the Public talk channel. There is no comparison. 5) I find electric eels oddly alluring. -E -------------------------- Message 9451 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 5 10:28:23 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Yes, Elendil. Nny and Bishamon only listen to me. In fact everything I complain about on public, and chat, happens. Wow, news flash, no it doesn't. The fact is that I am vocal about what I said, but did you even bother to read my post saying that I can't make you roleplay how I roleplay and even apoligizing? I suppose you only hear what you want to hear, but regardless, Shandryl plays multiple alts at the same time, and I don't see Kijindei or Devon helping me fight you while Dante does. If you're so stuck on me and what I'm doing, why do you keep perpetuating the situation? I walk into a room, you attack me. Why are you seriously still doing it? Because it isn't because ICly Dante is a dragonrider, or an aesir, what is Elendil's motivation against all of my characters that forces YOU to act that way? -------------------------- Message 9452 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 5 13:02:46 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: ... http://www.newsnet5.com/news/2310197/detail.html -------------------------- Message 9454 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jul 8 03:37:46 2003 EDT From: Timber (#9805) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Bows and arrows I lost connectivity, so if anyone paged me about bows and/or arrows, please resend. Sorry if I left anyone hanging. Thanks. -------------------------- Message 9455 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jul 8 08:57:41 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Ummm Just curious on why the slisssh seem to be birthing right outside the door at Red's Keep. Just to give more fun to us 'bad' guys? I think 85-90 slisssh standing out there is overkill..no pun intended. -------------------------- Message 9456 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jul 8 09:54:22 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Well. You're a subterranean alien creature, wandering the wasteland. You normally live in deep dark hives, and come upon an oasis, what would you do? Though my clever attempt at witticism may be viewed with insulting intentions, it is actually just a joke. , -------------------------- Message 9457 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jul 8 10:03:02 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: hehe Im not insulted, just curious on if it was moved there in some effort to annoy in a nice OOCly way that can be explained Icly. If the slisssh wandered there in a huge group who could fault them..hell, we like drinking there too. Crossing the bridge and going north was pretty much like running the gauntlet also (for everyone, not just the 'ragamuffins'), unfortunately though, the slisssh outside the door wont keep us out..nor lock us in. Just more annoying than anything since I'm too lazy to make a 'macro/hotkeyed go command' to bypass them all in a blink of an eye. -------------------------- Message 9458 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jul 8 10:10:14 2003 EDT From: Xrara (#16047) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Oooh.. And since if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. I offer up an idea/solution. I'd like to see the slisssh birthing at random spots. Above the bridge one week etc, in front of Reds the next, perhaps at some nameless coord the next. Will give us hunters something to look for if we want to kill slisssh and help keep some of those elusive newbies alive should they wander due north out of the R/T, since they wont have the stats to protect themselves from 1 slisssh, let alone 90+. Or perhaps another solution is to up their wandering timer so that they travel a bit more on their own. I love the slisssh being free range game now, I actually wander the wastes a bit more. Thanks! -------------------------- Message 9459 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Jul 8 14:55:08 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Xrara Nobody changed the birthing spot of the slisssh to single you, personally, out, or target any specific group of people. They all drop into the wasteland at the same place. Either the slisssh followed someone there or it's a fluke. .or the slisssh have developed some kind of neural-network AI inside their code... possibly planted by the illuminati. I will research this immediately. Hail Eris, Nny -------------------------- Message 9460 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 02:27:12 2003 EDT From: Mikishi (#24590) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: A question for some of you. Now that our 2-week war has come and gone, we've all conveniently forgotten about it. Ahhh, pillaging is so easy in the 21st century. Now our government is saying that is has used faulty evidence to make Congress agree to support the war. At best, it was a mistake. At worst, it was an outright lie. It's funny you pro-war folks probably never saw that comin', but I sure did. :) Have a nice, patriotic day. 'Cause you know our government is the BEST in the world. Go America! -------------------------- Message 9461 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 02:32:09 2003 EDT From: Mikishi (#24590) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Ed Bashing daaaayum B, y'allz be crackaz, bashin my homeboy Ed an' all. best be not steppin cuz i'll bust a cap in yo nuts faster than you can say "where's my momma". yo momma be suckin on some fat dicks while my niggaz gang-rape yo ass. so shutchoface. -------------------------- Message 9462 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 14:18:49 2003 EDT From: Oberon (#22725) To: *Chat (#5391) We have truly done wrong in removing an evil despot from power. We are terrible people. -------------------------- Message 9463 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 19:07:14 2003 EDT From: Homegirl_Mik (#24590) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: evil OK, Obey, we gotta conquer the rest of the world then. Spread Americanism to every country that isn't a democracy--err, a republic. Same way the Christians preached to eradicate thousand-year cultures. 'cause you know, we're the best in the world. Why not also fix world hunger? AIDS? Good Samartism only goes so far. We're all human, just like the rest of them. -------------------------- Message 9464 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 19:14:08 2003 EDT From: Oberon (#22725) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Cool I'm glad we agree. -------------------------- Message 9465 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 19:18:03 2003 EDT From: Homegirl_Mik (#24590) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: hmm. Being so pro-America/we'rethebest/honky tonk cowboy sure sounds nationalistic to me. you wouldn't be happy if China started to declare that they're the best damn place in the world and are going to let the rest of us know it. maybe it's just me, but I like to see the bigger picture. (And going to International High School helped, too.) -------------------------- Message 9466 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 21:41:14 2003 EDT From: Vertemis (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Honky Tonk Cowboy! Why I never! -------------------------- Message 9467 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 21:45:00 2003 EDT From: Vertemis (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) All us dullards couldn't possibly understand your fancy high fallutin' vocabulary! Jeezsh! International High School. Why I's didn't even pass the 4th grqade. Show me the light Mikishi, spread your worldlieness to us simple folk. -------------------------- Message 9468 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Jul 11 22:17:07 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: previous Wow.. All that education and you still say bust a cap.. Wow, must of been a school in California.. *grins* -------------------------- Message 9469 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 12 00:01:51 2003 EDT From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Free sound beatings For a limited time only, irate and otherwise arbitrary postings of a negative manner will yield a free beating. Step on up, and raise your voices for this limited time offer. No refunds. -------------------------- Message 9470 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 12 00:02:38 2003 EDT From: Nny (#25135) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Dante Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself! *slaps Dante repeatedly with his own hand* -------------------------- Message 9471 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 12 00:34:47 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Dante *laughs his ass off watching Nny trying to get Dante to stop hitting himself. Really, be nice to Dante, Dante.. He is all you got.. Give him such a hug.. -------------------------- Message 9472 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 12 01:04:01 2003 EDT From: Augustus (#18463) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Sorry I left earlier because of a phone call and didn't make it back to Roleplay.. I was worried about a friend who should of been home and wasn't.. And it took me a few to locate her and make sure she was ok.. Anyhow, sorry I said I'd be back in a few and then didn't get back for a long time. I was having fun and hopefully soon I'll make myself sit still longer.. Take care, Me. -------------------------- Message 9473 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Jul 12 22:17:35 2003 EDT From: Styx (#1610) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Added to DarkReach Added some mage only gloves that Nny made. They are in a pay crystal machine. And no, I don't remember where it is or how to get there. Ya need to be a mage of course to get in. --------------------------