From quinn@fazigu.org Sat Jan 08 11:12:32 2000 Received: from casper.realtime.com (casper.realtime.net) [205.238.128.161] by requiem.netsville.com with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1 (Debian)) id 126yTd-0001hY-00; Sat, 08 Jan 2000 11:12:29 -0500 Received: from casper.realtime.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by casper.realtime.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25620 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:13:22 -0600 Message-Id: <200001081613.KAA25620@casper.realtime.net> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:13:19 -0400 From: "Quinn@GhostWheel" To: quinn@fazigu.org Subject: GhostWheel Message(s) 7701 - 7837 from *Chat (#5391) X-Mail-Agent: GhostWheel (casper.realtime.com 6969) Status: RO Content-Length: 69109 Lines: 2127 Message 7701 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Dec 2 06:18:18 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: I just wanna look involved Chaos was pretty much a pain in the butt, loved him dearly and had a hoot of a time with him but he was only second to myself.. But I do agree with you for the most part.. With each change, the moo has become more and more social and less fun.. Ya wake up oneday and find you gotta start over or you have no chance at catching or passing up anyone.. I play games to win, winning is fun.. I like to have fun.. I love this place to death but it is getting more and more like going to Chathlic school.. We all are gonna be dressing the same and strutting around with the same stats evenutually... Of course, there will always be the horny babes who seem to be so fertile that ya just look at them cross eyed and they get pregnate.. There is some rp for ya.. *winks* This is in no way a whine or a flame.. Just the opinion of someone briliant in most ways. Love ya. Red -------------------------- Message 7702 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Dec 2 09:06:47 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: An event worthy of the new millenium. http://www.cnn.com/1999/HEALTH/12/01/chromosome.22/index.html -------------------------- Message 7703 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Dec 2 10:53:07 1999 EST From: Quinn (#2) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: gw I agree with the PhatYak: Ghostwheel is "not as good" as it used to be. That isn't to say it's "worse." I think it's better structurally, codewise. In the old days, I was constantly making changes, Razorhawk and the old guard were reworking the world. All that stuff is still here, but we aren't seeing much change. (With notable exceptions, such as Fortitude's revitalization of the submariner class.) It's unfortunate we're not as "alive" as we used to be, but that will change. I see the MOO as perhaps a "god" would: not as a snapshot of what it is /now/, but as a continuum. I'll always be here. It's not always a great place, but there is a greatness within it. -------------------------- Message 7704 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 3 13:02:13 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Woo woo, nothing posted in nearly 12 hours!! I'm proud of you... Hey guess what!! It's SNOWING! -------------------------- Message 7705 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:31:05 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Bitch time We have kids on this MOO. This is an acceptable tag for a tek? (Not to mention that I find it personally offensive.) The Grinch w 3d 7m OOC Tek _)_)=====D (_o_) -------------------------- Message 7706 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:33:21 1999 EST From: Mikishi (#24590) To: *Chat (#5391) If a kid, or adult finds it offensive, then they shouldn't be here. -------------------------- Message 7707 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:35:49 1999 EST From: The_Grinch_who_stole_Bish (#23011) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re:Tirafal In the words of Homer Simpson, "If you don't like it, go to Russia." Also, if you let your kids MOO here, you are one sick fuck. -------------------------- Message 7708 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:37:44 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Not when Quinn gets ass raped by the feds for running a porn site accesible to minors. -------------------------- Message 7709 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:39:20 1999 EST From: Mikishi (#24590) To: *Chat (#5391) I don't see the _minors_ getting uptight about it. -------------------------- Message 7710 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:44:57 1999 EST From: The_Grinch_who_stole_Bish (#23011) To: *Chat (#5391) The "minors" here have more MOOsex than those of legal age. I had MOOsex here when not of legal age. I doubt that a minor of 'innocent' intent on accessing this MOO would see anything particularly derogatory in a string of ascii characters, which is, if you haven't noticed, all that my tag line is. It is an abstract work of fine art -- make of it what you will. AS far as threatening Quinn with getting him arrested -- if charges can be made on such scanty heresay evidence, than I'm sure I can get you arrested at the very least for multiple harrasment charges, Tira. -------------------------- Message 7711 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:48:36 1999 EST From: Necro_Dreidel (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) My young mind has been corrupted by the ascii art of a powerful phallus. Oh my envy of it is so much that I must upload my own to equal its proportions. -------------------------- Message 7712 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:50:05 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) 1. I didn't threaten Quinn. 2. Whether you want to believe it or not, no ISP wants to be complained to about this sort of thing because in the states it CAN get you shut down. No matter who his server op is, eventually it goes through a professional ISP service. 3. Threatening me with harrassment is a bit like the dog calling the cat a "bitch". You're hands aren't exactly lily white either. -------------------------- Message 7713 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 00:56:01 1999 EST From: The_Grinch_who_stole_Bish (#23011) To: *Chat (#5391) 1. What you said could easily be construed as a threat. Try reading what you post. 2. If a child can get access to hundreds of megabytes of free, graphic, disgusting porn 2 minutes into opening a web-browser and nothing can be done to remove the threat of such smut server-side, there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about a piece of ascii art. If, however, something to that effect does, I will personally offer Quinn server-space in Canada, where moral stupidity tends to get the swift boot. 3. See, the thing is, you make attacks on people right out here in public, and nearly constantly. I doubt there's a user in the MOO who would vouch for your "lily white" hands. -------------------------- Message 7714 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 01:19:40 1999 EST From: Karma (#20542) To: *Chat (#5391) Well, we made it a whole 2 days with nothing, then in with the remarkably petty crap again. @whee. -------------------------- Message 7715 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 01:21:35 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: @whee Lets not count petty crap.. I'm sure it was the hot flashes. -------------------------- Message 7716 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 03:16:17 1999 EST From: Dexter (#14882) To: *Chat (#5391) I do not like the posts here. These posts have misleading subjects that have nothing to do with the body of the text. I read the subjects and think "Ah, a financial discussion" and when I read the body of the text it's just non-financial chatter. -------------------------- Message 7717 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 09:47:43 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Porn But Karma, there is only one person here who starts the petty crap. And yes dink woman (Tirafal) I'm pointing my cyber finger at YOU! Every 3 or 4 days you start in on someone. Why don't you go out and go dancing? Or bike riding, or something. Shake off some of that hostility. As far as Quinn running a porn sight, where is it? I want to go there :) Thank you for pointing out Bish's art work thou, because till you posted I had no idea what it was. I guess I didn't sit and stare at it long enough to figure it out. Anyway, if you think that is porn, I feel sorry for you, cause you are missing out on all kinds of good stuff on the net that is 200x better then an ascii suggestion. Now if you excuse me I'm going to go dress my husband up in my underwear. Oh, and I'm so sad...I never got to have cybersex with you Bish. *cries* -------------------------- Message 7718 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 11:18:32 1999 EST From: Santa's_Elves_on_Angel_Dust (#3791) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: My mantra for the month. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. I will not post anything derogatory to *Chat in December. -------------------------- Message 7719 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 11:45:42 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Happy Hanukkah Happy Hanukkah, reckon it starts today. have fun!! -------------------------- Message 7720 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 12:37:23 1999 EST From: Rand (#9865) To: *Chat (#5391) Tira, get over yourself, Christ. -------------------------- Message 7721 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 15:40:02 1999 EST From: Ylaerin (#16541) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: You know what I think is funny? The idea that graphical implication (and, I'm sorry to say Bish my dear, poor graphical representation at that) of a certain sexual act is enough to raise someone's hackles about "porn" -- BUT same said inidivdual utilizes the rather more explicit phrase which verbally indicated such action (i.e. "ass raped") in response [and, theoretically, defense of Quinn] to the previosuly mentioned art work. Hm. Since when do words & phrases count more as porn than imagery? I'd really like to hear logical answer on this one, since I live in Cincinnati where you can get in just as much trouble for selling "dirty books" as you can for selling hardcore videos. And, in a second line of questioning, what would make one person's use of the verbal terms acceptable but another person's use of imagery not acceptable? I think most minors get more information out of the phrase than the character gibberish. (Also, "rape" is, in itself, much more a serious issue than the potentially consenting action going on in the ascii art.) Just some questions that were, you know, running through my mind. Because really, I've kept silent through this whole thing -- conceding that a certain someone has a right to be upset about and/or to ask questions about player issues on this MOO despite the fact that said person rarely does so in a way which is intellectual rather than derogatory, accusatory, etc. However, when there's random whining that isn't even -logical-, and the complaint of the person in question is expressed through an even less logical means, I've just got to speak up & wonder. What happened to the [insert name here] that I used to enjoy spending time with? I'm assuming this person still has a loving heart, is kind to her friends and family, is intelligent and bright, has some really cool knowledge about various things, and is creative in ways that I appreciate. I haven't seen this behavior in a while, and it saddens me. So sure, you can now jump all over me and attack me for making some kind of veiled & caustic attack on the person in question. And it's true that I've been partly using sarcasm to make my point. But the favorable things I said in the last paragraph are true & sincere -- and I think that any of you on this MOO that really know me will understand that they are. I'm just starting to wonder if the qualities I mentioned earlier haven't gone the way of the "good qualities" of this MOO -- qualities which I, for one, still think are present, even if it's not the roleplaying, kidnapping frenzy that it was when I logged in for the first time 3 years ago. Having said ALL of that, I'll sht up now. And pledge not to flame anyone during the month of December as well. Happy holidays, Jess -------------------------- Message 7722 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 15:43:14 1999 EST From: Ylaerin (#16541) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Oops In my frenzy, I accidentally typed the following sentence: "Since when do words and phrases count more as porn than imagery?" It should read LESS as porn. My apologies. -------------------------- Message 7723 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 4 15:46:45 1999 EST From: Santa's_Elves_on_Crack (#14172) To: *Chat (#5391) Quinn, you better debit Bishamon! He's being offensive! If you don't, `someone' might call the feds on you!!! What?! I'M NOT THREATENING QUINN! How dare you suggest such a thing. -------------------------- Message 7724 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 5 00:56:20 1999 EST From: Tikiaido (#24781) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: This whole thing... I have told Bish on several occasions that I find one or more of his tags generally offensive. After I thought of it, I bet he laughed at me every time. That's probably the entire PURPOSE of it. Tira, you probably are a wonderful person, but you are the verbal equivalent of a crazed serial killer. You just HAVE to hurt someone verbally at a certain more or less fixed interval. That sickens me, and it should make you feel bad if you're not some kind of psychotic. And finally... Yes, Rathe, Tira's being a bad girl, Rathe, now go take your medication, Rathe... -------------------------- Message 7725 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 5 02:16:51 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Actually, the reason I go long periods without posting sometimes is because I have this RL thing called a "job" where I go work for money (And not on my back, BTW) I also have a husband and the attendant children who make up a "real life". But part of the reason is because here lately I've given up on this MOO. For the most part it's populated by sleaze bags who think an ascii cock and balls is funny. Truth is I don't give a rats ass what any of you think about me anymore. And no, I won't leave the MOO. I'm a spar munkie and I will keep playing with the combat engine just to see how far I can go. If I want RP I have other places I can go and DO go. And NO I won't stop posting to *chat. Besides, what would you do for your weekly entertainment? -------------------------- Message 7726 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 5 10:08:40 1999 EST From: Eponine (#3791) To: *Chat (#5391) We got our first snowfall here in Kansas last night. I woke up to this lovely white blanket across our lawn. It's not much, but with all this strange warm weather we've had, I was kinda looking forward to it. December is strange without a dose of snow. -------------------------- Message 7728 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 5 14:38:25 1999 EST From: Santa's_Elves_on_Crack (#14172) To: *Chat (#5391) @word munkie @word MUNKIE -> Checking ... @word MUNKIE -> The word "MUNKIE" is unacceptable. @word monkey @word MONKEY -> Checking ... @word MONKEY -> The word "MONKEY" is acceptable. In other news: Wow, Tirafal. You work! Congradulations on this achievement. Also, as I said before, you shouldn't be pointing fingers as to what you find sexually `offensive' or `depraved' or `sleazy'. You ain't exactly Ms. Vanilla yourself, honey. -------------------------- Message 7729 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 6 02:55:52 1999 EST From: Dexter (#14882) To: *Chat (#5391) @word congradulations @word CONGRADULATIONS -> Checking ... @word CONGRADULATIONS -> The word "CONGRADULATIONS" is unacceptable. @word congratulations @word CONGRATULATIONS -> Checking ... @word CONGRATULATIONS -> The word "CONGRATULATIONS" is acceptable. -------------------------- Message 7730 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 6 09:07:19 1999 EST From: Sterno (#21938) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: *chat is the best Even better than television. -------------------------- Message 7731 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 6 18:50:24 1999 EST From: Dur_Biggalo (#23874) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: All of you If you have Napster it should be easy to find... Find a copy of DJ Keoki's "Speed Racer (Remix)." You should be left laughing for quite some time. -------------------------- Message 7732 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 7 06:08:28 1999 EST From: Rand (#9865) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Blah... Ya know, it really sucks that I can get on late at night now from work, and yet, no one is around...I remember the good old days (snicker) when there were active people around the clock, the freaks were usually out at 5am, but now? Pfeh, no one except an Idle Bish who has Porn tags...Bah humbug. Me -------------------------- Message 7733 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 7 16:18:18 1999 EST From: Verty_the_Snowman (#23360) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Yeah.. but at 5am... Bish's porn tags start looking better and better. -------------------------- Message 7734 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 10 12:57:47 1999 EST From: Tarla (#18104) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: THe paper... Last time I checked, the paper was the equivalent of the National Enquirer, meant to be fun not serious. Other than that, all I know is that it is (or was) Eppy's thing. -------------------------- Message 7735 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 11 00:05:50 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: The papers The more I thought about it, the more I realized that this is a bar. Their newspapers SHOULD be at least as old as the one's in the doctor's office :> -------------------------- Message 7736 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 11 03:26:50 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Newspapers Who knows how to read anyhow??? Ain't we all Iliterate cavemen?? paper good for wiping up blood on floor or poop from butt.. Bah paper.. No news is good news I always say.. Besides, it would probably be just filled with birth announcements from you fertile females who do the funky dance with who knows how just for.. Ok, where is my dance partner? Me want nudies in bar, thats what makes the world go round.. Sexy babies with big boobs and easy ways.. Women shouldn't be allowed to do anything but look pretty.. Or at least service me when I want.. Like my good Jamie, siting at home with the shoes off raising the kids and doing my darning on the socks and such.. Yep.. Life would be good if we never gave them the vote!! I say this is a wasteland type game, lets get some female slave action going and down with equal rights!! Red.. P.S. Red's a idiot and was put up to this by his alter ego. -------------------------- Message 7737 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 11 12:25:46 1999 EST From: Denali (#18459) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Test. Just a technology test, baaaaaabeeeeee... D -------------------------- Message 7738 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 11 12:30:22 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Hmmm....I think I failed miserably. How much do you have to get to pass? Do you grade on a curve? -------------------------- Message 7739 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 11 23:07:32 1999 EST From: Eponine (#3791) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Whoa. It has come to my attention that people wish to see more of the Ghostwheel Weekly Journal. Soooo, bearing that in mind, mail me rumors. No pages please as it's too easy to miss them. Thanks! -------------------------- Message 7740 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 11 23:28:35 1999 EST From: Eponine (#3791) To: *Chat (#5391) There is a new edition of the GhostWheel Weekly Journal in the lounge. You ask for it, you get it. -------------------------- Message 7741 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 13 13:25:00 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: addresses Emailed some of ya.. I'd like to send out some of you a Xmas Card and such for being just wonderful people and being here for me to cry on your shoulder or just blow my nose on your sleeves.. Anyhow.. If ya could moo mail me a postal address and name I'd really appreciate it.. Oh if ya send it to me and don't get a card I reckon you didn't let me blow my nose .. Love ya -------------------------- Message 7742 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 13 16:32:49 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Me :) I would like to remind a few players out there that this is a moo, not a mush. If Clayson wants to ko you and strip you, well, I can do that. I don't need your consent or a note from your mother. Thank you. -------------------------- Message 7743 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 13 16:34:57 1999 EST From: Shandryl (#24740) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: locking?? If i have set another player as resident in my home, how can I set it so that this person can also lock and unlock it??? This is a tent generic. Short of chowning it back and forth I can't solve the problem. -------------------------- Message 7744 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 13 17:48:35 1999 EST From: Karma (#20542) To: *Chat (#5391) There's no current way to share ownership of a tent lock. -------------------------- Message 7745 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 13 23:54:06 1999 EST From: Dexter (#14882) To: *Chat (#5391) But if you ko someone and strip them for no real reason that just makes you a scumbag. -------------------------- Message 7746 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 00:12:57 1999 EST From: Gerald_Hunter (#16547) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: re: Me :) I would like to remind a few people out there who have forgotten this is a MOO with a very loose consent rule. If I want to kill you, I won't strip you. I skin you, use your shin bones as a pencil box, and use whats left to render into pork brisket and soylent. Consent is for the weak, and a note for your mommy ain't gonna save you from hell. Have a happy. G Hunter -------------------------- Message 7748 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 01:08:24 1999 EST From: Merri (#24667) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re:7745 Dexter, are you forgetting that this is CLAYSON we're talking about here? That's pretty much a given. And if she wants to play her character as a scumbag then by god she can jolly well play her to be a scumbag. -------------------------- Message 7749 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 02:41:12 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Dant's to bug I don't understand your bug post Dante. If Karcass somehow got out of hell by a cheat, well yeah, I would understand that. Karcass is a mad man, always has been. I don't think it is out of character for him to attack Murdock. Just like it is not out of character for Clayson to ko and strip players. All of a sudden everyone has to be nice? Why? If these actions upset the ic populace then something should be done to stop it ic, not ooc. Conflict is good. I really think there is enough restrictions on players who wish to pk and loot. Im not posting this to be a smartass or flame, it's just my opinion on the matter. Anyway, I didn't see Karcass post on here when he was killed the first day he was released from jail and all his stuff was stolen. -------------------------- Message 7750 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 09:21:04 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Get your Crayons out.. Let us draw a picture here.. Ok, ya freaks... They just said yesterday that mental illness is ignored in this country.. Hmmm... Yep.. I'd say you should start working on some self improvement before saying much about others.. Clayson, You sexy babe.. Tell me? DO I MAKE YOU HORNEY!?? Keep up the good work and we'll get together later and do the naughty thing.. *winks* Dante, ever here the saying.. Thats like the pot calling the kettle black? Oh do behave.. Karcass, You naughty crazy man.. Hell sucks huh?? I'd Ooc and go home too *winks* Merri, so much beauty and goodness, let it out baby! Lets just have fun!! Kill the freak if it bugs ya! Yeah!! This is one place you can get them frustrations out!! Try that at the mall and you might get in trouble!! WOO WOO Red -------------------------- Message 7751 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 10:05:47 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Red :) I saw that report on mental illness, those who did the report most likely gathered their evidence from this *chat board. -------------------------- Message 7752 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 14:13:50 1999 EST From: Abe (#21180) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Murdock, clay, dante and KarcASS. i know about the ko and kill without consent thing, but it would seem so much less twinky if whoever does it has an _IC_ reason. being crazy is NOT an original one, ive seen most of the players, here and elsemoo kill and say, 'im crazy!' or 'im bored.' Karcass came up from the platform several times, looked at murdock and stabbed him for no reason. at the very least i would have liked to see something like a well thought out REASON. at least clockwork was funny. he just came into the same room and kept telling me he was keeping an eye on me. :P Karcass, did not. -------------------------- Message 7753 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 16:47:39 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: PK's On this subject, think most could kill on just the reasoning of I don't like the guy/gal.. Like take Dante for instance.. Who in their right mind would just hang out with him for more than 2 seconds and not want to smack him right on the head?? Seriously.. Red's gotten it for not taking a bath.. Stunk, so I killed him.. So ya see.. Crazy or not.. Ya have fun killing folks cause of some reason or the other.. The victems?? Oh well.. Had a nice life.. Be more careful in the next I say :) Red.. -------------------------- Message 7754 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 22:52:43 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: Tirafal (#24173) and *Chat (#5391) Subject: The Unofficial Newbie Help File. Now that you've got your tent and weapons and armor and have sparred up to the point that the Jizo minis are no longer using you to wipe their butts, here's a few words of advice before you go wandering the rest of the Wheel. 1. Like most MUDs, there are certain characters on this MOO who get their jollies out of PKing (or at least stunning) newbies and then looting them of the few measly hundred or so crystal they may have. In particular, avoid Clayson. She'll knock you out just for the sheer joy of it. You see her, run like hell. 2. Avoid GhostWheel Plain until you have, at the minimum, a 1000 armed. There's a nasty creature that roams there called the Chimera who has this cute thing called a PC Hater Reactor. What does this mean? It means he will attack ANY PC on sight. And since his stats far outweigh that of any newbie, you can count on your little newbie butt getting killed. Seriously, you'll be bumping along, smacking the chops on Cainids and twisting the heads off of Bellifloras and this thing will come along and kill you on sight. 3. Avoid Dixie at all costs. No, Dixie is not a character. Dixie is a place. There are NO obvious exit descriptions in Dixie. Then they add insult to injury by not allowing you to OOC when you get lost (duh) because you can't see the exits. 4. Don't attack a dragon. You will only succeed in pissing it off and they will find you crunchy and good to eat. 5. Exercise care when in the R/T Building. Consent rule or no consent rule, if you're IC you're fair game. If you aren't sure about attacking another character, don't. 6. If you go to New Genesis City, you can wander around and see what's there, nothing will attack you. But DON'T attack anything there yourself. It won't give up and you can't kill it. 7. If you enter the slisssh pit, check your balls first. If they hang to the left, don't bother. 8. Be very careful in the swamp not to light a match. -------------------------- Message 7755 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 14 23:00:39 1999 EST From: Tumeric (#8131) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Hell I thought hell was like the midrealm, I figured if I typed @home it would say, you cannot leave for blah blah blah, but it let me home. Who gives a shit? -------------------------- Message 7756 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 00:33:16 1999 EST From: Sterno (#21938) To: *Chat (#5391) I've never had a problem with Clayson randomly PKing me. She's actually RP'd with two of my characters. Just thought I'd mention that to any newbies who might have somehow gotten a bad impression of her from that unofficial help file. -------------------------- Message 7757 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 00:35:50 1999 EST From: Karma (#20542) To: *Chat (#5391) Ditto on Sterno's. Call this a rant if you like, but I personally think the `he looked at me funny' school of PKing is downright godawful. -------------------------- Message 7758 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 02:09:12 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: the dink Yes, I have acquired everything Clayson has on this moo by Pking and steeling crystals. I don't role-play at all, I just sit in front of my screen hitting @rp over and over till I find some newbie to kill. If you are new and find yourself wondering if there is more to do besides reading Tirafal's continuing diss on the game. I suggest you hunt while not running script, if you keep your eyes on the screen chances are you can get away from the Chim. If you have half a brain you can figure out Dixie and sometimes pick up a few extra crystals from the beast there. If you truly do get frustrated you can always port to the PEC then home. There are players here who are happy to help you, not only spar you up to average, but give you weapons and crystals if needed. This is a fun place, but there are players like Tirafal that feel they have some how been jaded and there for have to put down everyone and everything that is not to their liking. Sort of like a child in the sandbox, they see something you have, they want it so bad that they will pitch a fit till they get it or make everyone else miserable. -------------------------- Message 7759 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 02:52:29 1999 EST From: Dur_Biggalo (#23874) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: I am 666 days today. Special thanks to Durmox for noting this. I would do something special but I'm a lazy ass. Maybe I'll randomly PK people who've put extra points into their sheets to look beautiful. But I haven't decided yet. Happy Bezelbub to me -------------------------- Message 7760 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 02:53:01 1999 EST From: Dur_Biggalo (#23874) To: *Chat (#5391) Beelzebub even But you knew what I meant. -------------------------- Message 7764 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 05:59:33 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: About the Unofficial Help File. To quote Clayson:"I would like to remind a few players out there that this is a moo, not a mush. If Clayson wants to ko you and strip you, well, I can do that. I don't need your consent or a note from your mother." Read 7742 on *chat. Put your teat in a wringer and you're gonna scream when it gets wrung. Regarding Dixie: You can't go to the PEC because you can't OOC. You can't go ANYWHERE when you get lost there. Log off in Dixie and you STILL don't go home. You're only way out is to ask a GM to move you and if there are none on that are unhidden (much less unidle) you're just shit outta luck. About the Chimera: Most people don't even know how to run a script and some (like me) can't because of the type of client they use. Automatically assuming that people will run scripts is a bunch of BS. Most of the times I have been killed by the Chim has been due to a combination of my connection speed and the MOO's lag. You CAN'T run fast enough. Lastly, I wrote the "help file" as a JOKE. Get that? You know that thing called "humor"? Obviously, there are a few of you who don't seem to have that particular "sense". -------------------------- Message 7765 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 06:19:04 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: BTW Another thing, Clayson. I remember many months ago when I was basically a newbie and you knocked me out and looted me. You spoke all of two lines and called it "RP". I guess it depends on your definition. -------------------------- Message 7766 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 12:28:01 1999 EST From: Valentine (#24957) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Unofficial Newbie Help File Hee hee... I found the file quite humorous, myself. Love Valentine (Maintaining a No-Flame Policy for the month of December) -------------------------- Message 7767 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 20:50:53 1999 EST From: Santa's_Elves_on_Crack (#14172) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Tirafal I'm struggling, here. I can't decide if it would be better to ignore your new bouts of whiny bullshit, and thus aggravate you further, or make some undoubtably witty comment. Oh well. -------------------------- Message 7768 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 15 22:55:12 1999 EST From: Styx (#1610) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Chimm Chimm Chimm-Cherrie 10 Reasons Why the Chimaera is awesome: 10 - It's a mythological creature. 9 - Goats (www.goats.com) kick ass. 8 - It is older then alot of the players online. 7 - I made it. 6 - It doesn't always kill people on sight. It's moody. 5 - Did I mention I made it? 4 - It's unique. The more you fight it, the better it gets. Much like a $player. 3 - Sometimes it will hunt cainids. 2 - The Tiny Plot it sprang from kicked ass. 1 - In case you missed it, I made it. Kynwal - Styx -------------------------- Message 7771 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Dec 16 11:49:20 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: Tirafal (#24173) and *Chat (#5391) Subject: The Unofficial Newbie Help File, Part 2 Ok. You got your weapons, you got your tent, you got your armor and now you have some small sense of where you can go and not get your face smeared into the ground. You're probably tearing various body parts off of Grave Dancers and trying to figure out why the HELL blunt takes forever to boost. Suddenly a stranger comes gallumphing over the hill. Who is it? And more importantly, will they kill you? Dante: This mage has a penchant for torture. He likes to collect the skins off of people. Particulary the skins of women. Particularly the skins of young, nubile, pretty women. Boy would Freud have a party with him. (In OOC actuality, Dante is a very nice guy and has made a career out of studying the combat system and helping at least half the MOO population to boost to survivable levels when they were first newbies themselves.) Williker: The resident Bad Boy. He'll think it's funny to insult you but if you approach him carefully he's usually pretty harmless. Don't piss him off though. He'll throw a tantrum and then wipe the floor with your snotty little ass. Durandal: Evwybodies favowite fewwet. Tadewi: This poor woman has as many personalities as she does pairs of panties. And she changes them just about as often. Basically harmless, she spends a lot of her time arguing with herself. Ymerith (aka Johnny, aka Johnny Kiva, aka Kiva): The MOO's Lothario, he's only been caught once. Lock up your wives, daughters, and yourself (if you happen to be female). Red Fang: A grizzled old goat who thinks he's a has been. His only threat is if you get pinned down in the R/T bar by him, you'll have to listen to old war stories. Vertemis: A germaphobic who plays with icky, greasy, machinery. You wonder if there's any skin left on his hands. Yalindra: Think Wagner. Think Valkyrie. Think of Devon, her poor husband. Ynaoise: A man who thinks he's a bird (maybe a loon). JackSparrow: He has a twin named Valentine. He's the good half. Clockwork: Rant rant rant. Coreen: Slightly addled from banging her head against too many brick walls, she may beat the hell out of you. But then she may ask you to beat the hell out of her. Brinn: An eight year old in the body of an adult, she's a pedophile's dream date. Rathe: Self proclaimed Emperor, now self proclaimed dead. Think Napoleon. No, no, not the REAL Napoleon. Kzin: A Blood mage. Get very nervous if he starts studying your neck. Rand: Jack the dragon killer. -------------------------- Message 7772 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Dec 16 18:07:30 1999 EST From: Santa's_Elves_on_Crack (#14172) To: *Chat (#5391) Rathe dons his funny hat and invades Germany. -------------------------- Message 7773 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 00:52:26 1999 EST From: DragonBabe (#5288) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Non-Smoking Just to let people know that you CAN quit smoking even after decades of heavy smoking. I am 9 weeks non-smoking and can feel the differences. Two bad things: 1) I started with the patches. I developed an allergie to the adhesive they believe. So I only had 4 of the six weeks on the first patches. I guess that was long enough, cause I am still doing it. BUT, I still crave cig's. I tried a few puffs a few weeks ago, and got almost violently ill. 2) My senses (Smell especially) Have intensified. Up until today, it was hard for me to go outside and smell the exhaust from buses/trusts etc, and would turn my stomach and give me violent headachs. This side affect has lessened and I am able to be around others that smoke now, and tho the smell is nasty as hell, it is not making me jones. Those he smoke now, should really consider quitting. And SOOn..for those that love you, if not for yourself. Hang in there. You can do it. There is help out there, including tobbacco annonymous, etc. Smoking is the worse of all addictions. Including worse than alcoholism. And you will always be an addict to tobacco. But ANY one can do it! *hugs* DB/Di -------------------------- Message 7774 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 00:53:31 1999 EST From: The_Grinch_who_stole_Bish (#23011) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re: Non-Smoking How am I supposed to die young from cancer without smoking? huh? HUH? Hrmph. Never a good idea when I need one. -------------------------- Message 7775 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 01:01:36 1999 EST From: DragonBabe (#5288) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Addendum I meant to put in the good things, the pluses that have come from quitting. I and my clothes no longer reek, smelling of dirty ashtrays. My mouth/breath no longer tastes/smells of a dirty ashtray. Morning breath has a new meaning! I have money! I dont have to carry a huge purse around with smoking paraphenalia. It is nice to go to a resturant and enjoy a meal without having to get up and go outside (Sorry...Love ya Robert!) My skin has softened and isn't as dry. Moisture returns. I have more time (smoking really takes alot of time out of your day), so I am able to find more fun things to do, like Read!, art etc. Hell! There are many good reasons, I do feel better! I dont gasp for air anylonger. Thank you to the ones that pushed me to quit. It's the best gift I have been given in a very long time. *hugs -------------------------- Message 7776 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 01:10:18 1999 EST From: Shandryl (#24740) To: Shandryl (#24740) and *Chat (#5391) Subject: response to Tira Sorry Tira, sorry gals.... Ymerith has been caught more than once. THe first time he managed to escape. This time around he came with his arms wide open. Ymerith is not available!!! :) -------------------------- Message 7777 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 01:12:31 1999 EST From: Rand (#9865) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: ... Another down side of NOT smoking... Heh, you'll love this one: When you arn't smoking anylonger your appitite almost tripples, thus causing you to gain weight and be all bloated...Yup...enjoy. R -------------------------- Message 7778 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 01:16:28 1999 EST From: Rand (#9865) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: mmmmmm... Just smoked a cig...Love it! MRRRRF! -------------------------- Message 7779 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 03:28:24 1999 EST From: DragonBabe (#5288) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re: 7777 Yes, I worried about that alot. Only gained 7 pounds, and it is starting to come back off now. Love winter fruits! And I didnt just have a cig *grins* And I loved it! -------------------------- Message 7780 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 03:35:21 1999 EST From: Dur_Biggalo (#23874) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: You know what I always thought was funny Despite all of the stoners I know, not a single one of them I know is fat... well, a couple are, but not due to their habit... Despite the munchies, etc. does anyone know a scientific reason for this? Or why the hell one gets the munchies? .. shit I wonder when I should be doing homework... -------------------------- Message 7781 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 06:16:18 1999 EST From: Rand (#9865) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: .... Funny thing that... Actually what happens in, your metabolism speeds up when smoking pot, which is odd seeing as its a `downer', now, alot of people gain weight like mad while smoking, because they get the munchies and don't stop eating.. (I don't eat when I get stoned, because the buzz goes away shortly after getting food into your system, what a waste).... The reason you get the munchies is because your body works harder/faster (Not your brain, just your body), when you are stoned and thus the cause of `the Munchies'.. That answer any questions? :) R -------------------------- Message 7782 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 10:54:51 1999 EST From: Ymerith (#22840) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: The post I never thought I'd make... I'm sorry to everyone who wanted this to be a flame-free month. I'm even sorrier to be posting my first flame ever... It seems that someone here (We'll call him Mr. Snitch) forwarded select bits of *chat, including ONLY the section on Johnny in Tira's help guide #2 to my wife. Dear Mr. Snitch, first off, you took everything said out of context and you stuck your nose where it's not welcome. Yes, as a character Johnny gets around. Would you also mind passing on that every woman he comes into contact with becomes a tragedy? It is quite deliberate that he gets involved with them and things disintegrate and cause emtional scars to both himself and the woman in question. The first woman he was involved with had a troubled past, he tried to help her but seriously messed up her mind and she ran away, the character was at such a loss that she was rerolled. The second woman he got involved with miscarried and ran away. This left them both with emotional baggage. Neither of them were the same after that. The third woman he was involved with stalked him and wouldn't leave him alone. She was tortured, maimed, and her baby was stolen and used for raw materials for a dark spell. The whole incident was retconned, but that's beside the point. The fourth woman he got involved with was driven to suicide. The fifth and current one is still blissfully unaware of what awaits her since we haven't figured it out yet. All I'm trying to say is that these situations are set up to roleplay a man whose a leopard desperately trying to change his spots and can't. There is no gratuitous behind the scenes meaningless moosex such as has been implied. Any questioning of the involved parties will verify this to be correct. Shandryl was responding ICly to something on *chat, since it would be silly to move the thread to *tps for something like that. Mr. Snitch, please do your homework and forward that as well. I am angered that you went off half-cocked, uninformed, and out of context. You have made my life difficult, but it is as much my fault for not adding a line to my character description saying something like "I am a happily married man irl, if your character and mine interact it is nothing more than words on a screen to me. Please keep this in mind when our characters talk to each other and do things together.". I apologize to everyone I've just spammed, if you go away and remember anything at all from this, remember that I have stated for the record that I am available to play with, nothing more. My heart and feelings stay on this side of the screen. Thank you and happy holidays. -------------------------- Message 7783 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 11:04:10 1999 EST From: Ymerith (#22840) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Addendum to last.... I forgot to mention that it hurt her deeply that I made my character available for relationships like that, and if I can somehow salvage his character concept he won't be available for any serious relationships. Sorry for the omission. -------------------------- Message 7784 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 11:11:22 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: last My apologies, Kiva. I wrote the post to be funny. I had no idea anyone would/could do such a thing. My guess is that it was somebody not included in the list who got jealous and decided a little "constructive" destructive manipulation was in order. Even if your wife doesn't know the difference between RP and RL, Mr Snitch certainly knew and used her ignorance to his/her advantage. -------------------------- Message 7785 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 11:17:45 1999 EST From: Ymerith (#22840) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: It's ok.... I know it was a joke, Tira, I told you to add it. I'm not really mad at the person who forwarded the stuff to her, just that it hurt her and is interfering with my RL now. -------------------------- Message 7786 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 21:44:01 1999 EST From: Santa's_Elves_on_Crack (#14172) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: smoking I quit smoking every now and then. I also quit drinking caffeine every now and then. Neither is really horrifically difficult, really. Mmm, cancer. -------------------------- Message 7787 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 21:44:32 1999 EST From: Santa's_Elves_on_Crack (#14172) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: also, re: smoking I smoke cloves, also. So I *don't* smell like shit. -------------------------- Message 7788 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 23:00:51 1999 EST From: Denali (#18459) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: 7782 on *chat We have one word where I come from to describe such a person. Chickenshit. Denali -------------------------- Message 7789 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 23:56:44 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: #7788 on *chat *LAUGHS* Yeah, well we all know who you are married to! Christ, calling the kettle black. -------------------------- Message 7790 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 17 23:59:22 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: opps mmm...maybe Denali meant chickenshit to the person who sent the post to Kiva's wife...well, if so, forget my other post. -------------------------- Message 7791 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 00:00:36 1999 EST From: Denali (#18459) To: *Chat (#5391) Would you like some salt to go with that foot? The subject left nothing to question, really. Denali -------------------------- Message 7792 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 00:01:42 1999 EST From: SternHoHoHo (#21938) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: No questions? I've always been curious about 133rd digit of Pi. -------------------------- Message 7793 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 00:15:10 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: hmmm Yes, I love enema porn, why you ask? Cause the asshole is so reveling...you are what you live with..right Denali? -------------------------- Message 7794 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 00:16:20 1999 EST From: Denali (#18459) To: *Chat (#5391) So that would make you an idiot, right? Denali -------------------------- Message 7795 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 00:19:43 1999 EST From: Tikiaido (#24781) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Gee, this is working well... Remember Eppy's request that we stop the hatred and flaming for December? I agreed. It's Christmas, people, even if 3/4 of the population of the world doesn't believe in it. GIVE IT A REST! -------------------------- Message 7796 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 00:21:09 1999 EST From: Tikiaido (#24781) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: One more thing... And don't be making any snide remarks about pots calling kettles black and shit like that again. I haven't even logged on for a week to aviod this kind of crap. And avoid adding to it. -------------------------- Message 7797 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 00:24:56 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Denali Yep, I guess that would. Thank you for pointing that out, all this time I have been wondering what to label myself. Tikiaido, if I want your opinion I'll ask for it. Until then, keep it to yourself. -------------------------- Message 7798 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 02:48:29 1999 EST From: WintEd_Solstice (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: I hate you all. *burns a christmas tree* Happy Hannukah, it's the festival of lights, so remember burn 8 christmas trees! -------------------------- Message 7799 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 04:07:05 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: WintEd I have an avocado tree, it has roots...you can't burn it cause one day it will have fruit. Im sorry, I just can't bring myself to put a dead tree in my house. But I would be happy to line up some candles if you like :) -------------------------- Message 7800 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 04:27:06 1999 EST From: Dexter (#14882) To: *Chat (#5391) Hannukah's over, asshole. Have some soap and shut the fuck up. -------------------------- Message 7801 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 18:08:23 1999 EST From: Quinn (#2) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: @chargen I've moved the @chargen verb back to $player, but disabled $effigy:save_to so that stat changes can't be saved back to players. Please stress-test the new system, and do report any bugs -- especially cheats, you wily wascals. -------------------------- Message 7802 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 18 18:12:31 1999 EST From: Quinn (#2) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: @chargen 2: electric boogaloo Oh, how to define a cheat: you shouldn't be able to TRADE skills at all after the first edit to your character after a @reroll, so you'll need to @reroll to try the TRADE function. Try using a Guest. Skills and attributes can be traded on a 10:1 ratio. That is, 10 skill points get you one attribute point, and vice-versa. Skills can be traded for skills, and atts for atts, at a 1:1 ratio. Attributes aren't allowed to go over 95 in @chargen. -------------------------- Message 7803 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 10:54:20 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Clayson's tag Dear Clayson, Violence and profanity are the last resort of people too stupid to know what else to do. Tirafal -------------------------- Message 7804 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 11:03:44 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Tirafal Or I could just be making a statement. -------------------------- Message 7805 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 11:38:33 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re:Clayson Which doesn't deny what I said in the least. -------------------------- Message 7806 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 11:47:38 1999 EST From: Lucy (#20413) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Potential Points Are you still planning on raising the potential points for new players above 100? -------------------------- Message 7807 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 12:18:27 1999 EST From: Quinn (#2) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: pot I don't think so, Lucy. I forgot that they're also /character/ points, and more than 100 could unbalance that. However, the trade feature for newbies will allow one to swap 1 att point for 10 skill points, which should allow for a lot of customization. (Eg. give up 10 points in Agility, get 100 in some skill.) -------------------------- Message 7808 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 12:21:55 1999 EST From: Dante (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: @reroll Maybe increase this back to a normal level, it used to be 370, I think ages ago. In fact beginning characters had alot more attributes back then as well. If you were to raise it back to 370 from the current 340, that would allow them to either focus on their attributes, or sacrifice about 200 for 20 points to spend on their skills. Seems like a good way to get around the problem. -------------------------- Message 7809 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 12:41:57 1999 EST From: SternHoHoHo (#21938) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: yadda yadda yadda If I have a problem with someone's tag, I usually page them about it instead of deciding to speak specifically to them on a public board that everyone has to read. Usually. -------------------------- Message 7810 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 18:19:01 1999 EST From: Mercury (#16576) To: *Chat (#5391) Maybe randomly assigned attributes could be ditched and people could buy their attributes to the levels they want rather than waiting to get the one character with a high strength and endurance instead of always getting someone who's average or got low stats in everything except willpower? Then again, I guess that would mean ditching the game system. Just never been a fan of random attributes. -------------------------- Message 7811 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 19 18:51:37 1999 EST From: Quinn (#2) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: trading With the new system, you'll be able to swap attribute points, so the randomness really won't matter. I guess I could just ditch it and start everyone with 55 in all stats, but unlike Mercury, I /love/ chaos. ;) -------------------------- Message 7812 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 20 10:25:26 1999 EST From: Quinn (#2) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: @chargen Enabled saving in @chargen. Enjoy! -------------------------- Message 7813 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 20 12:49:52 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: @chargen I'm very confused over this. Is this just for newbies and rerolls? Do you still go to the PEC to get your rolls/rerolls? Can I just go into the chargen editor and spend my pot points at anytime? -------------------------- Message 7814 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 20 13:24:36 1999 EST From: Quinn (#2) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: @charedit Added alias @charedit to @chargen. Yes, you can go there at any time to spend potential points. I do plan to eventually restrict its issuance to the PEC room only (as per another player's suggestion), but you'll always be able to use it to spend potential. -------------------------- Message 7815 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Mon Dec 20 16:58:28 1999 EST From: Mercury (#16576) To: *Chat (#5391) Are there any docs on how @chargen or @charedit work? -------------------------- Message 7816 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Tue Dec 21 19:12:30 1999 EST From: WintEd_Solstice (#10660) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Alts. Would the people who control Revanche and House Delaroi contact me? Failure to do so in a week, and I'm going to cull the alts. Sorry, but no sense having something thats not being used. -------------------------- Message 7818 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 03:28:25 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: My husband Mine and Denali's first anniversary was on the 21st. We purposely married on the solstice last year because it was significant to both of us. When we talked about the past year we relived some of the memories of those times. Bottom line, we agreed that neither one of us had any regrets, even through the bad times...and there were a few of those. We've grown together, laughed together, cried together and yes, even argued together. But we've always managed to take a step back and ask "Is this really worth fighting over?" He's taught me things....about computers, books he's read, and life. And I taught him how to cook and not be afraid to discipline a child :> He has stood by me when my daughter's life was hanging in the balance, rejoiced with me when she was out of the woods, played with my younger ones in the park in 90 degree heat, suffered through my sister's wedding < and got smashed at the party afterward along with 9/10ths of the people there :> Tolerated a 6 hour car trip with 4 children in the back seat between the ages of 2 and 8 and brought me roses for no reason. We have, in the melding of our selves in this union, become a family. I love you, Denali. -------------------------- Message 7819 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 04:06:00 1999 EST From: Samhain (#24923) To: *Chat (#5391) Tirafal's posting reminded me of something very dear to me. That is, the one year anniversary of my adoption of a pitbull which I named 'Bruno.' You see, this time last year, Bruno was in a local animal shelter, ready to be put to sleep that night. However, I by chance saw him there while looking for a puppy to get a friend of mine for christmas. I found his permanent 'wrinkled-face' expression quite humorous, and when I got to hang out with him for a bit, I took a liking to him. And so, with the adoption of Bruno, and a min-pin for my friend, I set home, gaining a new companion in life. I would just like take this chance to celebrate Bruno's life, a life that would never have been here today if I had never stumbled upon him on this eve of the solstice. -------------------------- Message 7820 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 04:09:33 1999 EST From: Mikishi (#24590) To: *Chat (#5391) And this Bruno, did he have any talents? -------------------------- Message 7821 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 04:15:04 1999 EST From: Samhain (#24923) To: *Chat (#5391) Actually, Bruno does have plenty of talents. Like when we go the park to play fetch, I could toss a stick _way_ out there, and he no matter what, he always brought it back. I think Bruno is really faithful to me, and couldn't imagine life without him. Whenever I get home from school, there he is, lying on the doorstep. I also remember all the funny things he did. Like whenever a woman would pass us by when I was walking him, he would always try and turn to chase her. Ah, Bruno was maybe one of the best friends I've ever had. -------------------------- Message 7822 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 04:20:51 1999 EST From: Samhain (#24923) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Addendum Speaking of women, I remember the time me and Bruno were out for a walk in Pasadena. We were walking down Colorado Blvd., and I was rounding up as many hookers with prosthetic legs as I could. Then, I would take them, Bruno, and a video camera into my room, where I would make Bruno have sex in _every_ position thinkable with all of those Saigon whores. I remember all of them were legless, and most were also at least eight months into pregnancy. Ah, those were the good old days; videotapes of my pitbull Bruno having vaginal, anal, oral, and group sex with pregnant, legless hookers. -------------------------- Message 7823 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 04:29:22 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Tirafal's husband I love you too Denali, and I was wondering if we could celebrate with Samhain's pit bull...I'll bring the butter. -------------------------- Message 7824 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 05:12:52 1999 EST From: Tikiaido (#24781) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Ewww... That was degenerate even for you, Clayson. At least you come up with something new every so often. -------------------------- Message 7825 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 08:00:31 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Re:7823 Butter is so unimaginative. Quite outre at those sorts of gatherings. Much better to bring the furlined handcuffs, a blindfold and some hot squiggy cinnamon oil. -------------------------- Message 7826 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 13:07:41 1999 EST From: Samhain (#24923) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: As I mentioned before Don't forget the 8-month pregnant legless Saigon whores with lots of body hair! -------------------------- Message 7827 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Wed Dec 22 13:27:58 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) *grins at Samhain* I'm sorry, I must be losing my touch. Damn, the whore would have made a nice foursome. -------------------------- Message 7828 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Thu Dec 23 17:34:27 1999 EST From: The_Grinch_who_stole_Bish (#23011) To: *Chat (#5391) Fraggle Rock forever! -------------------------- Message 7829 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 24 02:08:03 1999 EST From: Aerie (#24608) To: *Chat (#5391) For anyone who cares, I'm not going to have access to a computer until the 14th of January. See you all then! -------------------------- Message 7830 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 24 04:24:17 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Christmas Eve I got my little girl (8 years old) her first REAL doll. It's a porcelain girl dressed in Victorian style with a dark red velvet dress and a matching red velvet cap, a white fur muff and real leather shoes. She has brownish blondish silky curls cascading from under the hat. In short, it's the kind of doll I would have killed for when I was a little girl myself and dreamed over the Sears Christmas catalog. I stood her up under the tree and realized...this is what it's all about. Loving someone so much that you will walk through fire to see them cry with happiness. Christmas isn't about presents. It's about GIVING. We cherish the home made presents as much (if not more) then the store bought ones. Christmas is about CHARITY, in the true sense of the word. Charity is an old English word that means self sacraficing love. All of the hard work I have put into making Christmas a happy time, I did for the love of my family. I have shorted myself on sleep, worked overtime to get a bit more money and put in a lot of hours baking, cooking, wrapping presents, and doing all of those things just to see my children and husband smile. Believe me, it was worth every second. Even though I am a nonChristian, I still celebrate the Yuletide. The idea of Christmas is universal and no religion holds a patent on it. Many of the customs of Christmas originated in pagan religions. It proves that a holiday of universal giving and self sacrafice was common to all people....and that the Church simply joined in. I want to wish everyone on here a Merry Christmas, a happy Hannukah, a joyful Kwanza, a light filled Yule or whatever you happen to call the holiday. >From my heart to yours. -------------------------- Message 7831 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 24 11:00:52 1999 EST From: Quinn (#2) To: *Chat (#5391) Ah, Kwaaaaaanza, where we celebrate the blessed memory of a lowly professor who pulled a holiday out of his ass. -------------------------- Message 7832 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 24 13:29:47 1999 EST From: Clayson (#17237) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re: Quinn's *laughs!* -------------------------- Message 7833 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 24 20:55:44 1999 EST From: Sterno (#21938) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Xmas generousity While you're all feeling generous, feel free to be generous in my general direction. I accept cash and personal check, as well as gifts in the form of food or back rubs. You won't get anything in return, but it's all about giving, right? Merry Xmas!!! Sterno from Wisconsin, where his heart is as cold as the weather. Humbug. -------------------------- Message 7834 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 24 23:14:15 1999 EST From: Mercury (#16576) To: *Chat (#5391) Ah, all those other religions trying to ride on the coattails of the success of Christmas. New thing to page Eponine: Merry Christmas! -------------------------- Message 7835 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sat Dec 25 03:49:16 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: What I've learned over the years. I ran across this and almost every word reminded me of GW. Gee...I wonder why? "What I've Learned Over The Years" 1) I've learned- that you cannot make someone love you. All you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. 2) I've learned- that no matter how much I care, some people are just assholes. 3) I've learned- that it takes years to build up trust and a minute of suspicion to destroy it. 4) I've learned - that you can get by on charm for about fifteen minutes. After that, you'd better have a big dick or huge tits. 5) I've learned- that you shouldn't compare yourself to others - they are more fucked up than you think. 6) I've learned- that it's taking me a long time to sleep with the person I want. 7) I've learned- you should always leave loved ones with loving words.You may need to borrow money. 8) I've learned- that either you control your attitude or you will be offered medication. 9) I've learned- that money is a great substitute for character. 10) I've learned- that sometimes the people you expect to kick you when you're down will be the ones who do so. 11) I've learned- that just because someone doesn't love you the way you want them to doesn't mean you can't take advantage of them when they're passed out and naked in your bed. 12) I've learned- that your family won't always be there for you. Unless, of course, you win the lottery. 13) I've learned- that no matter how good a guy is, he'll eventually revert. 14) I've learned- that no matter how badly your heart is broken, therapy is still expensive. 15) I've learned- that we don't have to ditch bad friends because their dysfunction makes us feel better about ourselves. 16) I've learned- that two people can screw the exact same person and compare notes. 17) I've learned- that the people you care most about in life are taken from you too soon. And all the less important ones just never go away. 18) I've learned- To say "Fuck them if they can't take a joke" in 6 languages. -------------------------- Message 7836 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Sun Dec 26 20:16:17 1999 EST From: Tirafal (#24173) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: re:1356 on *tps Y'know I figured out why I so rarely RP here anymore. I'm simply just not twisted enough. -------------------------- Message 7837 from *Chat (#5391): Date: Fri Dec 31 08:52:06 1999 EST From: Red_Fang (#5907) To: *Chat (#5391) Subject: Happy New Year! Well, the world ain't fallen apart and just got a call from Austraila and it is already a hour into the New Year there.. No worries Mate long as the beer holds out.. Gotta love a drunken Ausy calling me at 6:30am to say Happy New Years.. --------------------------